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How can Roman Catholics be catholics when they don't follow the canons of the catholic church(fasting on wednesdays and fridays, forcing married priests to abstain from sex with their wifes, the shaving of beards,the use of unleavened wafers,etc.)

2007-06-23 19:51:21 · 15 answers · asked by Jacob Dahlen 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

not fasting on wednesdays and fridays

2007-06-23 19:57:46 · update #1

The term ‘Roman Catholic’ refers to the heresy formed around the person of the Pope of Rome (who broke away from the Orthodox Church in 1054 A.D.), which strives to subject the world to the incontrovertible doctrinal and decretal authority of this man, declared to be the “substitute [vicari] of the Son of God”, “Christ on earth”, etc. This is the fundamental and only truly unchanging doctrinal aspect of this sect and its essence; all other characteristics may be changed or ‘developed’ in new directions, of which history already records many examples.

2007-06-23 20:41:18 · update #2

In addition to the dogma of the Pope, the Roman Catholic heresy currently holds the heresies of the Dual Causation of the Holy Spirit, God as a Tripartite Energy (with Created Grace being a further heretical consequence), Purgatory and the Papal Treasury of Merits, Development of Dogma, the Divine Inspiration and Salvific Nature of all Religions (a heresy stemming from the 20th-century Freemasonic takeover of the Vatican), the Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary, the Sacramentalogy of Opere Operato, etc.

2007-06-23 20:43:14 · update #3

As well as the canonical violations of claiming jurisdiction for the Pope in all dioceses, adding to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, Rejection of Married Priests, Mutation or Mutilation of the Mysteries of Holy Baptism, Chrismation, Confession, and Lord’s Divine Liturgy and Eucharist (unleavened wafers, removal of the invocation of the Holy Spirit, etc.), and the papal decrees ordering or sanctioning the robbery, torture, murder, enslavement, and other forms of inhuman maltreatment of insubordinate or non-Roman Catholic persons.

2007-06-23 20:44:26 · update #4

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*Is Catholic*

You pretend to know much, but the more you type the more ignorant you come off as.

From your points, it is very clear that you are not an Orthodox Christian or if you are you really need to relearn your Church's teachings because you are bringing great shame to them.

If you are not an Orthodox, you are also not one of the earlier churches that broke away. In that case, what you are is somebody trying to cause problems.

Please stop.

The answer to your question is simple...we do follow the canons but you have no idea what those canons are.

2007-06-25 13:24:48 · answer #1 · answered by Liet Kynes 5 · 0 1

Well, that's kind of like the "Calvinist" versus "Hyper-Calvinist" deal. People have made a semantic adaptation that helps them communicate a complex concept in a single symbol. Sure, technically, [C]atholicism is broader than the Latin Rite, although you must confess that the Latin Rite is the one most familiar to modern Western societies. Why is that? Could it be the absolute crushing dominance of the Italian Home Office with respect to the lesser traditions? Might you cut a little slack for those of us taking the 50,000 foot view of the matter? If tomorrow, the adjectival use of "Roman" to delineate [C]atholicism's core nucleus of doctrine were simply stopped, it would take no time at all for a new adjective to replace it, as the linguistic need for such a device is real and inescapable. I think something like "Papal Catholicism" might be an adequate replacement. In any event, history has created the identity you seek to rehabilitate by remarketing under a more neutral brand name, and natural language will fill any vacuum left behind by artificial word games used to suppress the negative associations of the Roman label.

2016-05-19 00:13:12 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

As the people at Vatican city would say, Roman Catholics are the ONLY true catholics. (Hence the word ROMAN) Now I'm not sure exactly what they practice in the states, but Roman Catholics in Italy (or Vatican City) are EXTREEMLY strict. You may want to read up on it. Or better yet take a trip to the Vatican (trust me it is absolutely breathtaking).

2007-06-23 19:58:08 · answer #3 · answered by fiestacarsrule 3 · 0 1

They actually do do a lot ofthose things - and they both come fromt he same basic practices - the ONLY real differene between roman catholics and greek orthodox - and what caused the split between them - is how they view the Trinity.

That's it.

Being catholic isn't all about following every little form and ritual - it's about your belief in god and jesus - and not being a judgemental person.

What ever happened to worrying about yourself before being concerned about the state of another's soul?

2007-06-23 19:56:27 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Their is no prohibition to using unleavened wafers, shaving of beards in Roman Catholicism. To be ordained a priest you must take a vow of celibacy. Men who are married and wish to become priests must VOLUNTARILY seperate from their wives. This is done with PERMISSION of BOTH parties and is not FORCED on anyone.
Fasting and abstinence? You are right on that one. But, it is possible for the church to ammend, revise and or ommit rules on fasting and abstinence. The question is, should they?

2007-06-23 20:01:23 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

We are still catholics see we have some differences also to some catholic chruches, we follow a big cross like for example we do the sign of the cross + in the name of the father, of the son, and of the holy spirit. We still do belive in Mary, some non catholics or protestants do not though, and why we belive in Mary? because she was the human mother of Jesus , she treated him as her son not as a God but as a son, Jesus loved his mother, would you not love your mother, we don't worship her as you might think we don't worship we praise, as what Jesus would have to say if he was alive, We should know and love out mothers and fathers especially the ones that loves us. And why we have popes other catholics do also belive in popes but it is the roman catholics who do, we do not worship or praise the pope either, they are just the heads of our church and the heads of the bishops and priests.
so yes we are catholics.

2007-06-24 01:43:22 · answer #6 · answered by Dannah M 2 · 1 1

well the catholic church gave us the bible and was promised the guidance of protection of the holy spirit, 2000 years plus is a significant indication of the guidance and protection of the holy spirit. as from the early church fathers we see that the early christians were catholic, the same as roman catholics of today are.

www.scripturecatholic.com
www.newadvent.org
www.catholiceducation.org
www.salvationhistory.com
www.ewtn.com

again the bible the early church fathers and the catechism attests to what the church of truth is doing is from the word of god and aided by the holy spirit.

your claims are affirmed from anti catholic sources with an agenda or from what source do you draw your conclusions?

2007-06-23 20:01:27 · answer #7 · answered by fenian1916 5 · 1 1

Catholic means universal. So in that way we are all 'catholic'. There are 3 branches of the Christian Church that considers itself "Catholic" those are the Eastern Orthodox, the Anglican, and the Roman.

2007-06-23 19:57:00 · answer #8 · answered by tonks_op 7 · 0 1

If they say they are Catholic, then they are. Remember, Roman Catholicism was around long before all other denominations, so I think they get the honor of being the "right" Catholics.

2007-06-23 20:04:54 · answer #9 · answered by Rogue Scrapbooker 6 · 2 1

Because the Pope said so.

2007-06-23 19:55:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

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