so God made childbirth painful for all women because of one little mistake Eve made?

Question

how do you justify this decision?

ok i understand punishing Eve, however I don't understand punishing all women after her. what did THEY do to deserve this?

Answer 1

Adam and Eve were set up to fail. You have TWO totally innocent people, pure as the driven snow. They had NO idea about evil, No idea about trickery. No concept of lies and anything that was NOT on the pure "up and up". NOW< you have the MASTER of deciet, the KING of lies. teh most Evil being that ever existed and he looks at the two "suckers" in the garden and begins his con. The con lasted all of what? 5 minutes? If even that. And because TWO innocent people were suckered by the Prince of lies, EVERYONE has to suffer?? It was a comlete set up to fail. God didn't even give Adam and Eve the street smarts to even recognize that they were being conned. And being conned by the BEST con man around to boot. The SIN, if there even WAS one was God's and NOT Adam and Eve's they just took the fall for it because God in his infinite embarrassment couldn't stand up and admit that he GOOFED and didn't give the two innocent rubes an even chance to RESIST. when being lied to. They never even KNEW what a lie WAS, up to that point.

Raji the Green Witch

Answer 2

First of all, it doesn't say that God made childbirth -painful-, it says women must bear the -labor- of childbirth. Just as men must bear the labor of the fields. The Bible doesn't say that childbirth is painful, only hard work.

The myth of all childbirth being necessarily painful is an American one. Childbirth isn't always painful, actually. Some women even report having orgasmic birth experiences.

How does one justify this hard work? Somebody has to do it. Women are designed to. It's not a punishment, it's a gift.

ps. I'm not a Christian, so the whole idea doesn't make a difference to me except in trying to convince people that childbirth pain has more to do with our place of mind than the size of the passenger.

Answer 3

This is extremely poorly worded. I'm not quite sure what the question is fully asking. I'll just say that child birth is painful because that's just the way humans pro-create. A lot of things in life are painful. God never said that child birth wasn't painful, and neither did anyone else. Obviously no one can ""teleport" each baby out".

Answer 4

It's not said, but I have a hunch that women wouldn't have as nasty and uncomfortable periods if it weren't for Eve. I think she put a damper on the whole cycle/childbirth thing.

Is it fair? God is always fair, even if we don't at first see the wisdom in his decisions. He made us. He made the rules. If I were back in the Garden of Eden and given the rule to not eat from one tree, would I have obeyed or given in? Something tells me, I too, would've been weak. I wouldn't be any better than Eve. This might be part of God's point. (?)

Answer 5

A coupla points after knowing I don't hold with all those Bronze Age Myths of Invisible Sky Critters:
a) How come The Invisible Sky Critter created a glitch in the system? Being all-knowing he shoulda known what would happen. He's a sick puppy for MAKING it happen as we all know NOTHING can happen without The Invisible Sky Critter’s permission.
b) How come only Eve got punished with the pain? Why wasn't Adam given some sorta equal punishment or was toiling in the fields it?
c) Noticed a coupla men being rather casual about Woman's pain. "Been there; done that." *cough* Sometimes my sex p*sses me off.

Answer 6

Your misunderstanding the word 'pain' and its common. The 'pain' that Eve felt when giving birth was to do with physical pain. This was because before sin they received all the blessings of God and God's character. This includes comfort, rest, peace and healing. When Eve sinned she walked away from God and God's blessing so she brought pain into her world and into herself.
Eve's pain also comes from spiritual pain caused by her walking away from God and leading her children away from God (as she knows what this causes this would cause her anguish).
Also from emotional pain, this is the most important pain that Eve would feel. Parents love their children and almost all would lay down their lives so their child would not have to suffer. So what happens when the parent is the one causing the pain? The parent feels guilt and many other emotions. Eve caused her children to live in sin. She cursed her children and then felt pain when she realised what she had done (this is amplified each time she had a child and realised that another person was to suffer for her mistake.
Eve made one little mistake? It was neither little nor a mistake.

Answer 7

Pain in childbirth had always been there, if not how would Eve had any idea when her due time was. Also, read Genesis 3:16 where it says: "And He said to the woman.'I will INCREASE your trouble in pregnancy and your pain in giving birth'.
So doesn't this clearly show that woman had to have some degree of pain for childbirth in order that the pain could be INCREASED??

Answer 8

Yeah, and Adam had to work the land. Funny thing is, women still give birth and take on half of the workload. Something is wrong here. I think women have pain in childbirth because muscles are contracting involutarly to push a human being out of her body, but that's just me.

Answer 9

When my wife gave birth to our second child she neither had pain nor medication for pain. True, she had some discomfort from the process; but with our using the Lamaze Method, of practicing the controlled relaxation of various muscles, she was able to relax those muscles of her body not being used to push our son out of the birth canal!

Hey, Mr. Knowitall, LuckyJohn19: I challenge you to e-mail me and I'll let my wife, who gave birth twice, and is also a BSN, RN, and taught OB/GYN nursing, answer your doubts as to whether or not she had *any* pain in childbirth during 12 hours of labor, the second time around. That is, unless *you* have somehow experienced childbirth first hand!

Answer 10

The Bible says we are saved through childbirth. *We* meaning women of faith, women of God. We are saved from the pains of childbirth. I have never, ever known a woman who has a 100% genuine relationship with God (a daily walk) who has had a difficult labor.

I think God was trying to demonstrate that obedience to him results in an easy life, while disobedience has serious consequences and makes you want to die! Childbirth is painful - but for these women I am talking about, it has been a breeze. I strongly believe there is a connection to their easy births and their beliefs.