How is God fair if we are all different people with different destinys?

Question

Think about it, you were created you, I was created I. You like the things you like, I like the things I like. Why was it that 2/3 of the angels didn't rebel and 1/3 did? How was this possible? Afterall, the information presented to all of the angels in heaven were the same, yet there was a division in heaven of all places. How can there be a division like that, unless some angels were doomed from the start. Doomed to not be able to perceive God's perfection. I simply cannot understand it. Even if you said they had free will to rebel, it means nothing. From this I have deturmined that it is impossible for life to be fair. We all play the roles we have been given, yet we don't even know they are roles, when they really are.

To make this question more interesting. Think about this. Was it ever possible for Satan to have remained good or does that power corrupt anything that has it. If God created another Satan, would that same thing happen again? Was Satan doomed from the start or did he really have a chance to fend off the addicting drug of never ending power that subdued his mind?

Answer 1

You're absolutely correct.

Paul even admits that...but God uses the "unfairness" for a purpose...Romans 9 is all about the fairness and unfairness of God...really interesting...

Answer 2

I will think about what you have proposed if you think about the following.

...that in realm of existence where this 'rebellion' took place that, like here, there was 'free will/agency', then the 1/3 who chose to follow another plan did so simply because they could...or had the freedom to make such a choice.

You, however make a VERY important observation -- that of ALL places this could happen "in heaven"?

Meaning you ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN INTUITING THAT THERE IS SOMETHING "WRONG" with either the story as it is told, OR in the way that concepts involved are taught and believed.

The New Testament hints at this thusly:

"For we wrestle against flesh and blood, but...against spiritual wickedness in high places." (Eph 6:12)

One may state that this is a 'mistranslation' or argue with the translation; however, before anyone does, please consider reading the following at:

http://www.freeread.com/archives/1179.php

The word "destiny" implies a lack of choice and/or an absence of free will. Again, after you read the above reference article you will be able to understand how such a division can happen "in heaven" without having to account for it as being anyone's "destiny".

As I see that the premise for your argument is based upon the existence of "absolute perfection", again, you may wish to read through these quotations on the subject at:

http://www.freeread.com/archives/relative-perfection-quotes.php

Here's some other articles on perfection -- from which some of the above quotes were taken:

http://www.freeread.com/archives/relative_perfection.php

Regards,

Answer 3

Man limits himself by misinterpreting so much around him or her due to lack of knowledge. I can understand your confusion. But there is real wisdom out there that many others have accessed and you could benefit from learning more to gain greater clarity and understanding for yourself. Go to Ameekpress.com and you'll meet a guy named Stephen d'Amico who has, believe it or not, had a real life encounter with God or Source or whatever you want to call it, this power that is behind all creation. Every person can access this Source if you work at it and learn how to do it. All answers are there! I'm not kidding and this is not anything far out or wierd in any way. It starts with meditation and learning how to achieve a state called enlightenment. I personally know Stephen. He had what can only be called an encounter with God at the age of 22 and the experience forever changed him. He now runs spiritual groups in Toronto, Canada and is quite the human inspiration. This is truly not funny stuff! Others have also accessed this Source and it is possible for anyone. Once you achieve this, everything you once couldn't understand, is answered. It's there for anyone willing to apply themselves. You are then able to access this great well of knowledge and all becomes known to you. And you don't have to die to experience this! We think heaven is only accessible after death. Not necessarily so! Stephen d'Amico has written a book about his experience, called "Heaven On Earth - A Guide to Enlightenment & Human Unity. I highly recommend his book. It's on his website at ameekpress.com. He's a very young man but yet he has this depth of knowledge about life and the reason why we're all here, that's truly remarkable. I'm working on getting there myself. I've made some incredible discoveries already. So I know this is real! Good luck on the path to knowledge! You could even post your question to Stephen directly on his site. You're bound to get an awesome answer! One mistake people make when reading biblical explanations is taking every word literally. Biblical knowledge is very much written in parable, meaning a story is told but you must interpret what it means. An actual account of an event is not the real story but rather the meaning must be found within the words themselves. The Bible is a text of riddles really. You have to dig a little deeper when reading the re-tellings of such things. And ancient languages do not always translate so well into our present day version of English. There can be and have been many mistakes made in the translations from the Aramaic say, of the original version, to what is our language of today. Well, you'll see and understand eventually,if you truly want to! But Stephen can be accessed for help! He's a very approachable guy and he's loaded with answers of all kinds! And everyone can learn how to find those answers on their own!

Answer 4

We all have a part in a perfect plan. Each part is right for its role. Who said life had to be fair; and why would everybody being the same be fairer. I am happy not to have children and I am happy for those who want and have children. I like caramel you might like chocolate, whats the problem with difference.

Think of tribes camped around the base of a mountain. They all have a different perspective of that mountain; they might even find different paths to climb it but they all have the chance to do so. An easy slope for one, a sheer cliff for another. What do you want, a long walk or exhilarating ascent?

As for the angels, perhaps they all loved God but in a different way and perhaps they will be forgiven at the end of time.

We know our roles by following our heart, for upon it is written God mission for us. Do not be distracted by what must be beyond your perception and understanding. Trust that you know what you need to, to be happy and contented.

Answer 5

You are right that in most cases life is not fair, but our understanding of what is fair and what isn't could be different from "his" prospective. I can barley call my self religious, but it is possible that those angels used their power of "free will' negatively and karma got to them. Again, you are right that life isn't fair but in the end it all straightens out. I believe that even if you have been treated unfairly by life, you should remain positive and don't turn against g-d; and he will award you. This is according to my view about what is fair and not fair, I am sorry if this answer isn't reasonable for you.

Answer 6

Satan allow pride to rise up in his being... instead of protecting the mercy he wanted to seat on it. he convince a third of the angle to follow him (free will) Satan wanted to be god.....he's the only being that has already been judged... he want to take as many as Gods children as possible with him to destruction and many in this day will still follow him

Answer 7

fairness is a human concept, it is my opinion that "God" is so far beyond that concept that it's nature is beyond our comprehension. No, life is not fair, and no one ever promised that it would be. "Fair" is not why we are here.
We are here to grow and learn. We are not here for perfection or justice, that is not possible here. We are here to achieve enlightenment, to learn for each of us a unique definition of what exactly is "God". Added all together, the totality of "God" is acheived. So, don't look for fair, look for understanding, look for your own personal reason for existence. You won't get it from a book or from any other person, you will only find it inside yourself, that is where you carry your divine spark and your connection to that which some call "God".

Answer 8

lots of logic is spewed out when it comes to religion so don't bother. Just do what other people say when they say to have blind faith.

Answer 9

maybe it'll balance out in your next life.