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No I do not believe the Church replaced Israel. Paul even stated that is not true. Paul stated that those that believed after Jesus was crucified were "grafted in" with those that believed before Jesus was crucified. Well that is not my real question...I just thought I would throw it out. OK did Jesus die for the sins of all the world? Does that mean Jesus died for Jews and Gentiles? If Jesus died for the Jews then why are they still concidered special? Is there some other way for the Jews to gain favor or salvation with God? As I know the Law of Moses never granted anybody salvation. So here is the forbidden question. This is for Christians to answer. If a Jew that does not believe in Jesus obeys the Torah, the Tanuk, the Talmud or whatever else they are required to obey and Loves Jehovah God with all their heart...are they granted eternal salvation? Once again I am talking about a Jew that clearly rejects Jesus as Savior but claims that they Love God with all their heart?

2007-06-23 17:56:19 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

My opinion on this is irrelevant. My belief is unchangeable on this matter. I believe Jesus is the Only way period!

2007-06-23 17:57:06 · update #1

Ok consider this. If the Jews are indeed still God's Chosen People then what are they Chosen for today? Jesus anulled their religion. Did you know that?

2007-06-23 18:03:37 · update #2

Right on Rock Harder.

2007-06-23 18:04:27 · update #3

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No they r no longer God's chosen people , Jesus died for all the people , and he told his followers to spread his words through all the world to all people no exceptions for race or sex or any thing , all the pople

2007-06-23 18:01:31 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

One thing can be stated about the Jews and that is they preserved the law, which is infused with the New Testament, through Christ himself. Now as for the Torah, and Talmud: I really don't know, but I do understand that it carries some sort of significance. I think those who obey the Law of God but don't acknowledge J.C. will have an equal chance to sit down and understand both sides of the coin, so to speak and then make a fair, rational decision at some point in time. Be it here or there.

2007-06-23 18:06:29 · answer #2 · answered by Da Mick 5 · 0 0

Good question. The nation of Israel is still God's chosen people. God is not done with them yet. There are still unfulfilled promises and prophecies concerning them. I am glad you have not fallen into the Church is Israel thing, that is unbiblical. Remember the covenant with Abraham? He was promised land, seed and blessing. Who was the land promised to after him? Ephraim, part of the Northern tribes or Israel, not Judah. That part of the blessing is not fulfilled yet, but will be when all Israel is gathered together in their land. I do not mean every Israelite or Jew, but a remnant from all 12 tribes.
The purpose of the law was not salvation, it was a schoolmaster that repeatedly said, guilty, guilty, guilty. It was not meant to save, but show the perfect holiness of God and what was required to obtain salvation through works, which is impossible since no one can keep the law perfectly. The Old Testament laws and practices were simply a foreshadow of what was to come. Christ did die for all sorts of people (not all people inclusively), Jews and Gentiles. There are both Jew and Gentile who are of the elect, the out called ones, those who will be saved. There will also be Jews who are not saved. It has nothing to do with their religious practices, but upon the calling of God and the work of Christ on the cross, nothing more. I tend to think that there will be a remnant from every tribe who will make it through the end times alive and will repopulate the earth during the millennium, fulfilling the promise made to Abraham.
Hope this helps.

2007-06-23 18:12:29 · answer #3 · answered by BrotherMichael 6 · 0 2

Why is it a forbidden question? Yes, Israel will always be the chosen people of God. God never breaks His covenants.

However, only those who have faith in Jesus Christ as their savior, Jew or Gentile, will be saved. As Jesus said to the religious leaders of His day, "if you have not the son, you have not the father".

2007-06-23 17:59:40 · answer #4 · answered by Esther 7 · 0 1

Yes, the Jews are still God's chosen people. They have God's promise that they are. He made a covenant with Abraham and will honor it till the end of the world. Christians are compared to a graft of a plant in that we are grafted in to the chosen ones. (Romans 11 gives the whole explanation. God will continue to woo the Jews until the end times when a remnant will be saved. Give Him time. His chosen people have a special place in heaven.

2007-06-23 18:27:06 · answer #5 · answered by Yo C 4 · 0 2

~Very interesting~
The Jews are still God's chosen people. Jesus & God one One, with the Spirit {The Trinity}. The Lord will complete His work with the Gentiles {non-Jews} & then He will return to the Jews.
Someday Jesus will open the eyes of the Jews!
As of Today, if someone knows God then they know Jesus.

2007-06-23 18:25:56 · answer #6 · answered by Jesus Loves Connie 3 · 0 2

Sorry, the answer is NO. The only way to the Father and His Kingdom,Heaven is through acceptance of the ONLY sinless person to live and die as sacrifice for us.
The Law that God put into effect was only to show us that we can never be sinless. Meaning even if we think bad thoughts we have broken the law and cannot enter heaven, meaning eternal death when we die.

2007-06-23 18:06:17 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Yes the Jewish people are still God's chosen people. Salvation is of the Jews John 4:22

2007-06-23 18:02:45 · answer #8 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 0 2

I guess I don't see that it's forbidden, so here goes.

Following the Babylonian exile, when Israel was restored to its land, the people were to restore true worship in their God-given land. One of the first projects undertaken was the rebuilding of Jehovah’s temple in Jerusalem. However, since the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 C.E., the temple has never been rebuilt. Instead, in the former temple area stands an Islamic shrine. If the Jews, who say they are under the Mosaic Law, were today in Jerusalem as God’s chosen people, would not the temple devoted to his worship have been rebuilt?

Matt. 21:42, 43: “Jesus said to them [the chief priests and the older men of the Jews in Jerusalem]: ‘Did you never read in the Scriptures, “The stone that the builders rejected is the one that has become the chief cornerstone. From Jehovah this has come to be, and it is marvelous in our eyes”? This is why I say to you, The kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits.’”

Matt. 23:37, 38: “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her,—how often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings! But you people did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you.”

Sounds bad for the Jews. What about God's covenant with Abraham?
Gal. 3:27-29: “All of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one person in union with Christ Jesus. Moreover, if you belong to Christ, you are really Abraham’s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.” (So, from God’s standpoint, it is no longer natural descent from Abraham that determines who are Abraham’s seed.)

Do they [Jews] need to be in union with Christ?

Isaiah 53:1-12 foretold the death of the Messiah ‘to bear the sins of many and to make intercession for the transgressors.’ Daniel 9:24-27 connected the coming of the Messiah and his death with ‘making an end of sin and forgiving iniquity.’ (JP) Both passages show that the Jews were in need of such intercession and forgiveness. Could they expect to reject the Messiah and have the approval of the One who sent him?

Acts 4:11, 12: “[Regarding Jesus Christ, the apostle Peter was moved by holy spirit to say to the Jewish rulers and older men in Jerusalem:] This is ‘the stone that was treated by you builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’ Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” (Although the nation of natural Israel no longer enjoys special divine favor, the way is open to individual Jews, as it is to people of all nations, to benefit from the salvation that is made possible through Jesus the Messiah.)

So, I think the Scripture speaks for itself. God will deal with all of us in his good time and is more qualified to judge than anyone here-abouts.

Hope this helps.

2007-06-23 18:15:16 · answer #9 · answered by Suzette R 6 · 1 0

according to Jesus they are not God´s people already

Matthew 23:37 "“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her,—how often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings! But YOU people did not want it. 38 Look! YOUR house is abandoned to YOU."

Daniel 9:27 “And he must keep [the] covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease"

until the end of this last week the covenant will last , 3 years and a half of Jesus´s death (Nisan 14), that is recorded in Acts 10 , when cornelius was chosen by holy spirit and was a roman and doesn´t need to became proselyte jew.

Acts 10:34 "At this Peter opened his mouth and said: “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, 35 but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.

2007-06-23 18:01:52 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

That is not a forbidden question.
When Christ came, and died, and resurrected - there was a new covenant for all people: Asian, Indian, Caucasian, Jews, male, Female. slave or free - and that is that eternal life is determined by faith and trust in Jesus Christ .
That is what Jesus made clear - the old is gone and the new has come.

Applies to Pujols too.

2007-06-23 18:03:32 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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