Now do y'all get it about same-sex marriage?

Question

Assemblyman Daniel O'Donnell explains it pretty well. Quote from the same-sex marriage debate in the New York State Assembly:

"I do not want a seat in your synagogue, I do not want a pew in your church. I seek a license that many of you have had, some of you have had two or three times."

--New York Assemblyman Daniel O'Donnell

Article:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070620/NEWS01/706200390

How is it any more selfish than insisting that others live by your beliefs?

Answer 1

To deny Americans equality under law is un-American, and un-Constitutional. To base our civil laws on religion is also un-American, and un-Constitutional.

Our employees have taken an oath to the Constitution, not their religion. They have a fiduciary responsibility to "preserve, protect, and defend" the Constitution. If they care more for their religion than they do for their country, they should leave politics and open a church.

Why did they try to pass a Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage? Because they know there's no such ban already in the Constitution. They also know that, if a gay couple is married in one state, every other state must, Constitutionally, recognize that marriage.

Bigots make me sick.

Answer 2

If a couple love each other and have promised their lives to each other a marriage license is not needed for love it is for legal reasons. Legal marriage is only for legal purposes like who gets every thing when your partner dies without leaving a will. I am pagan, I am also straight, but if same sex marriages ever become legal in my state which I doubt because we now have a Constitution amendment prohibiting such, I will not hesitate as a minister to marry two people who are in love. It is not my way, but to each his own.

In sickness same sex partners are sometimes denied rights in the hospitals simply because they are not legally married. Being legally married would stop all this. If states allowed same sex partners the same rights as married people, there might not be debate over same sex marriages. People are going to love whoever they want regardless of what society and the law says. Same sex marriage harms no one.

Answer 3

Exactly!!! It doesn't matter who your significant other is! Look at how many other peoples were shunned and now look where we are! Gays and lesbians might not be considered "good" or "equal" now and considered to be "sinning" but sometime in the near future their opinions will change! How is it that if your straight you can get married but if your gay you cant????? makes no sense what-so-ever, but people are entitled to their beliefs. Look at it this way, think of the human body as a puzzle piece, you have many options to "fit" the other puzzle piece together! The gods made it this way!

Answer 4

Give ANY two people who suport each other rights, but they are not a marriage.

Marriage discriminates on many levels. Age ? Gender ? and they cannot be close blood relatives ? So there is discrimination on several levels is there not ?

It is somewhat tragic, that at a time that some gays and in particular lesbians have pushed for 'equality'....some lesbians have been involved in women's centers promoting antifamily agendas based on discriminatory, biased, bigoted anti-male agendas....that in fact divide the family.

For example: 'Stop violence against women' models that ignore all other forms of abuse of women, and TOTALLY ignore men and children. (the false logic used was that most victims of violence were women...that was most becoming all)

We appear to be promoting a 'half-truth' philosophy that is anti-family, anti-father, anti-mother and anti-child.

Two of the same gender cannot procreate, so why then make them equal to something they are not. They have never procreated ! Not most all but none of them ?

They are what they are, and if the government wants to give rights to them, seems logical, but let us not call them something they are not ?

Who will be the bride who will the groom, or should we change that as well...?

Any truth in the statement that homosexuals discriminate as well, that is lesbians do not marry gays ?

Any truth, in the suggestion that heterosexual community has been under attack by the devil and the homosexual agenda, disguised as 'feminists' for the most part ?

Pschology would suggest that these people were either born with a corrupted gene, ie drugs, or that they were abused and discriminate against the opposite sex ?

Questions to think about ?

Is not this a consistent step into the promotion of a culture of death ?

Answer 5

Gay marriage is the big, democratic 'exception' for many religious people.

Religious people don't want the government interfering in their lives. But my church preaches that gay marriage is good and right, and the extreme religious people think it's okay to prevent me from practicing my religion, which approves of gay marriage.

This is the 'exception' they are ready to make, because it doesn't apply to them.

The only way to get gay marriage passed in many countries is to accept 'civil union' first, even though it's an official form of 2nd class citizenship in many states.

In the UK, Civil partnership is guaranteed all the equal rights of marriage, but you just can't call it marriage, at least not right away.

In so many years, none of this will matter. O'Donnell is right. Get your Moses or Jesus off my back.

Answer 6

Hah! I love the post above that says it's a sin, even if it isn't by choice!! That either throwns the entire debate about free will out the window, or it demonstrates that your god is a real jerk. He creates people with an attraction to members of the same sex, and a lack of attraction to the opposite sex, and then says they are sinning for being exactly what he create them as? Niiiice logic.

Answer 7

This same person will prolly scream separation between Church and state while he meanwhile certainly wishes to obtain a religious credential pertaining to marriage. Let him have a "certificate of union" or whatever but, marriage --no. I would be willing to have a certificate of union as well as my marriage but marriage is between a man and a woman.

Answer 8

They aren't going to get it. They have something impenetrable on their side: a combination of deep disgust for what gay theoretically do, and a few Biblical quotes that convince them God feels the same.

For some people, progress on this one will have to be by osmosis.

CD

Answer 9

that make sense thay want to have the marriage but thay do not have to got to the churches we had had gay marriage a while in the uk and no one minds one little bit it time the usa came out of the dark ages and joined the 21centry

Answer 10

Marriage is the union between a man and a woman. If queers want to hold their own little ritual there is no law against it. But I myself believe it is immoral and if something is immoral it is wrong. And divorce is in most cases is also wrong. Too many take wedding VOWS about as serious as a I take Daniel O'Donnell.