Whoever believes in the existence of the spirit world (whatever religion you may be in) probably believes there is also a greater intelligence, but of an unknown quantity. So there must be another reality somewhere that is very different from our own. Assuming that the spirit world is intellectually superior, which would make sense since we basically have no knowledge of metaphysics, would that make that reality more real than ours?
2007-06-23 02:25:43 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
This was Plato's theory. He felt that there was another world that was unchanging and perfect, while ours is temporal and constantly changing. He believed the other world was more real, as it did not change. His teachings heavily influenced Christian teaching on heaven. (For those who object to this, C.S. Lewis recognized this. At the end of Chronicles of Narnia the character based on himself says something like "Its all in Plato. What are they teaching these days in the schools?")
I prefer Aristotle, who was concerned with this world and what we can actually know.
2007-06-23 02:32:40 · answer #1 · answered by in a handbasket 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You are on the right track<><
we have to stop reasoning with our minds, and believeing with our hearts.
Read... John chapters 14-17 in the Holy Bible.
John is the 4th book in the New Testament.
Also towards the back is the 1st, 2nd and 3rd books of John, they are short in reading, but very powerful.
God bless you.<><
2007-06-23 09:33:43 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The physical world is simply a manifestation of our thoughts (spirit world), just an illusion. Ever see something plastic molded? The spirit world is the mold; the physical world is the plastic item created.
2007-06-23 09:33:12 · answer #3 · answered by American Spirit 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
yes, the "metaphysical" world existed before the physical and most frames of thought that support it's exsistance say this world is made of that world. hmmm, making contact with that world would make it more real if you can not do that I guess that world becomes more real to us when we leave this world.
2007-06-23 09:34:56 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
There are a lot of false assumptions here. God is Spirit, therefore invisible to the third dimensional view except through the "spirit of man" and by His representative Jesus in the flesh..., of whom we can only read now until we have a relationship with Him. He "appears" to many and always has.
Angel can be spirit or 3-dimensional appearance. Demon act upon and through people..., using those who have not kept their mind clean and pure and free, therefore demons can use the physical senses of humans; also their mind, will and emotions for THEIR wicked purposes. God and all His activity comes FROM the third heaven, but all devilish and demonic forces: strongholds, delusions, apparitions, lying signs and wonders, etc. come FROM the 2nd heaven.., the invisible evil world in the earth and upon mankind.
Jesus Christ defeated the devil and took his power away upon being in the 'underworld' three days and resurrecting from the dead. The price for all mankind's sin was paid in full and the Father was satisfied (Isaiah 53); "He took our sin and gave us His righteousness" and all things were/are reconciled by His blood sacrifice. (Read the books of Colosians and Philippians in the New Testament).
Meta-physics simply means "more than physics" and ONLY GOD is more than.., He created all things to operate on a certain level of vibration and everything, even our thoughts has a frequency and they either vibrate in harmony with God's LOVE or it misses it. These energy vibrations come through our true emotions/feelings, our intentions, our thoughts and especially our WORDS.
When you are partner with God, your words have enormous power. Yes, we do have knowledge of the "more than physical.. "law" world"..., if you choose to. When we CHOOSE to partner with God, He truly does give us insight and information and ability beyond what we had without Him.
If, when people talk about the spirit world as referring to "the dead", why would they think that Aunt Suzie knows more now that she is dead than she did when she was alive?? Rediculous. There is no transfer of knowledge to the dead folks.., and all that they could ever tell you is whether or not they are happy where they are or not. After death, we are indeed knowing the state of our afterlife..., whether with the rewards of God and with Him or NOT.., but we are told by God 's word to not talk to the dead. The reason is, they can't talk with us. They are cut off from the land of the living; but demonic forces posing as 'aunt Suzie' certainly can communicate with us. Just because some psychic can tell you your address or your Mother's eye color doesn't mean it is from God..., there are some communications that are difinitely NOT from God and are only elavating themselves.
Before I was 'born again' and accepted Jesus as my Lord, I was known as 'psychic'. I had the propensity to "know things" and sometimes it was truly astounding even to me, but that is NOT what I was supposed to be doing with this gift. It was from God so He could bless people on the earth..., not so I could have a reputation as a 'seerer". When the enemy of our soul uses the tools God put inside us to advance His kingdom, it is his attempt to steal, kill and destroy what belongs to and honor God. (John 10:10).., and we fall for the same trap and lies did Adam and Eve.
When our spirit is open to God through Jesus Christ, we are privy to the truth and knowledge and wisdom of God..., the highest intelligence!
Scripture says in 1Cor.1: 28 - 31; and 2: 12 - 15. Just reassure yourself with the words from one who cannot lie. Then lastly, read and accept the words in Philippians 4: 19.
2007-06-23 10:28:28 · answer #5 · answered by gg28 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Bible does give enough information to show that our cosmos is more or less a virtual universe. The angels and Jesus were created outside this and before it.
So, you are right, theirs is the real one and ours is the artificial one.
2007-06-23 11:58:54 · answer #6 · answered by Fuzzy 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Both are real.
There's no such thing as anything in between real and fake.
Either it's real or not real.
Both spiritual as well as physical properties exist all around us. Thoughts have no physical substance.
P.S. - I'm not religious.
2007-06-23 09:34:38 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
They are both realities...our physical one is more real, now, when you get over there...it will be more real.
Peace, Love, and Blessings
Greenwood
2007-06-23 09:31:44 · answer #8 · answered by Greenwood 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Both worlds are totally real... If you paint a picture it is a real picture that you can touch, but time will destroy it.
2007-06-23 09:37:41 · answer #9 · answered by spir_i_tual 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes the spirit relam is more real than this world.
2007-06-23 09:34:35 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋