When Jesus returns and all the saved go to be with him, what will keep them from falling into sin again?

Question

Will they be made differently than Adam? If there is something different about them that will mean that they won't fall into sin, doesn't that mean that God made Adam faulty? If they are no different than Adam, it must be that the environment will be different. But, Adam didn't make his environment. So, all God would have to do would be to put the Christians under the same sort of test of obedience as Adam was and they would eventually fall again. I don't see how God would somehow be satisfied with his creatures if the only thing keeping them from being bad again is the absence of temptation.

Answerer #1. The bible clearly states that the saved will have no memory of their former lives.

I see that, as usual. The people responding to the question are unable to address the essence of the question. Perhaps they don't understand it.

Okay, Delta Charlie. You're saying that God made Adam imperfect, that he's going to fix his mistake when he saves the chosen ones.

I take it, Rainfall, that you consider the sons of Adam who will spend the rest of eternity in hell just fallout of God's plan.

Answer 1

Wow, that's a really good question!

This is just my own thinking (and beware: I am not a Christian and don't pretend to be one).

I always thought God deliberately designed Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Adam and Eve had just been created. How innocent can you get? So God puts these two innocent people in a big garden and says you can eat anything you want except stay away from this one tree right in the middle of the garden. That's sort of like leaving a 4-year-old alone in a room with a wedding cake. What would you expect to happen?

Think about this: What was it in Adam and Eve's makeup that made them eat the fruit? Was it weakness? Curiosity? Rebelliousness? Was it just plain old-fashioned stupidity? Whatever it was, it was an inescapable part of human nature. That's just how we humans are! Is it so hard to believe that this is the way God designed us? I mean, how else could we be? Can you imagine human beings not being that way? They wouldn't be like humans at all, they'd be like robots!

Anyway that's how I've always thought about it.

Answer 2

Adam wasn't faulty. God had to place agency and choice on the earth, so gave Adam a decision to make. If Adam did NOT eat the fruit, he would have remained immortal and never had children or died. If he did that, then he would have broken the commandment to multiply and replenish the earth. God KNEW the fruit would be eaten, and it was necessary that it be so. Adam's "fall" was the only way God's plan could continue - it was a fall to mortality, not a fall as in being sinful or evil.

As to your first question, when Jesus returns and all the saved go to be with Him, Satan won't be included, so he won't have the ability to offer temptations or sins to the people. They will all be followers of Christ only.

Answer 3

I'm not sure, Bruce. The reason is that John appears to say it isn't possible in the very next verse after those you quote. He says: "We know that everyone fathered by God does not sin, but God protects the one he has fathered, and the evil one cannot touch him." It's pretty clear that John cannot be saying every genuine Christian is sinless, he's already told us the opposite in chapter one. So what is the "sin" he's talking about in v18? Could it be the sin unto death? The answer to that question is the answer to yours. The best way to solve the problem would be to look at parallel passages where John talks directly about mortal sin. But there aren't any. So expand the search to include the NT. Again, I can't find one. There are certainly passages that talk about believers' sin, but none of them except gospel references to blasphemy against the holy spirit list a "mortal" sin by name as such. It looks like we're stuck with a self-fulfilling or circular hermeneutic. One passage is used to interpret other passages that are used to interpret it. That's why I said I don't know.

Answer 4

It will be *very* different - we all will be very different. I know that it's hard for some people to imagine, but it will be more than just mere lack of temptation. You won't *want* to sin. When you see the true full face of God, you will wonder how you ever wanted to do anything that would displease God in any way.

All of the old things will be swept away - no more death, pain, suffering, sin, sorrow. All of that will be totally gone.

Answer 5

The memory of how it was here. We've lived it, we know how miserable it is (in comparison to eternity). We won't want to go back once we're with him and living in a perfect world.

Adam had no idea what would happen if he ate the fruit... that's why he was tempted... just to see what was on the other side. We already know because it's ALL we've known.

Answer 6

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To attain to the unity of the Father and Son while still a human requires Gods spirit inside this person resulting in, ‘…he cannot pratice sin…’ And, in the transition from human to spirit, death is to be “swallowed up forever” indicating sin is not possible. 1John 3:9 1Corinthians 15:53-55

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Answer 7

If you are not experiencing the kingdom of heaven in this life, you won't magically start in the next. Know The Spirit of truth = experience the kingdom. Ignorance is HELL.

Answer 8

Jesus said when we get to heaven we will be like angles. we will have past the test on earth I do not think God will be testing us in heaven. if we love him and want to worship him we will be happy there.

Answer 9

when jesus returns we will all be made perfect like him. and satan and his power will leave the earth while jesus is here so there wont be any temtation to fall back into. read about it in the bible dude!

Answer 10

You have asked the right question: will the final Resurrection eliminate Free Will?