I know the names of my great-grandparents, when they came to the U.S.A., even the ship (for the kids and great-grandma, great-grandpa must have came before them, or more unlikely after them) but I don't know where they came from and no one in the family does, just that they said Alsace-Lorraine, France. Is the last name Hartman unique to any areas?
2007-06-22 15:58:19 · 5 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities ➔ Genealogy
They came from Alsace-Lorraine when it WAS Alsace-Lorraine, during the German Empire rule. Also, I would never call their name German because apparently they caused hell for my family, they all had french first names and spoke french, hardly german. They came to the usa in 1888.
2007-06-22 16:27:50 · update #1
What on earth is LDS? Also, to the person about "Republican France", my great-grandparents were born in the mid 1850s, during the rule of Emperor Napoleon III, so idk if thats true of Alsaciens and Lorrains.
2007-06-22 16:30:58 · update #2
Welcome to the most difficult part of Europe to research. For starters, "Alsace-Lorraine" is not one place and doesn't have a single source of records. It's like referring to part of the Midwest as "Wisconsin-Illinois".
Alsace was the more German province and Lorraine was along for the ride during WWI. The problem you face is that they don't have a single archives for records, every province has separate "departements" like Vosges and Meuse or Meurthe-et-Moiselle. They are like counties in the US and they keep their own records in their own archives.
Hartman is not a very unique name. But it's also not very French. Believing it's possible that it came from either province is realistic, but it's probably more likely from Alsace. What you need to do is go to the LDS and request the microfiche (different than the films) of the passport/visa requests from each departement in each of the two provinces. It's the only cohesive recordkeeping that's easily available in the US.
From there, it depends on the year of emigration. Post-1850 is much easier to trace than 1789-1830. Also check the port of departure. If it was Amsterdam or Rotterdam, the records are in good order and kept by those magnificent genealogists in the Netherlands. They're the best at sharing information on the internet.
From the 1790s to present you'll also want the Civil registers to track births, marriages and deaths. (Beware of the French Revolutionary calendar). Pre-1792 you'll also want to search Catholic parish records for births, marriages and deaths.
There is no great website to search for French records, but http://www.geneanet.org is pretty decent.
2007-06-22 16:09:01 · answer #1 · answered by GenevievesMom 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Alsace Lorraine Genealogy
2016-11-09 01:12:32 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Additional information below: I don't know if you are aware, but the people of Alsace-Lorraine are mostly German. Germany was not a united country until the end of the 19th century. Alsace-Lorraine was 2 of the small German states. It was annexed by France in the 1700s to the displeasure of the people of Alsace Lorraine. Then France overthrew its monarch and established a republic. In 1870 Prussia took Alsace-Lorraine from France and the people of Alsace Lorraine realized they rather be part of Republican France than the Prussian Hohenzolleerns.
German was united and the Hohenzollerns were over Imperial Germany.
In WW 1 when the allies reached Alsace-Lorraine they were greeted as liberators by a German speaking population. At first the Allies were suspicious, until it was explained to them by French officials that the Alsatians and Lorrainers had supported the Allies.
It was returned to France by the Treaty of Versailles. Then Hitler took it back and naturally knowing the population was German but French loyalist, they were very cruel to the population there. After WW 2 it was returned to France.
LDS center is a family history center with a Mormon Church. They have records on people all over the world and are very helpful. Actually, the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake has the largest collection of genealogical records in the world. If you have a Mormon Church near you, call them to find out if they have a Family History Center.
They have never sent their missionaries by to ring my doorbell because I awailed myself of their services.
2007-06-22 16:14:00 · answer #3 · answered by Shirley T 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Alsace Genealogy
2017-01-04 13:47:30 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2016-05-21 02:21:27 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Ignore the "best answer" it is completely incorrect. Alsace-Lorraine was not two parts but one and you need to research that distinct name it was divided over the years between France and Germany beginning as German and ending as France as someone else said.
2016-05-30 18:19:49 · answer #6 · answered by Jamie 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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These three records show a great deal of personal information on the immigrant, including what town or village in the homeland that they departed from. Look for the "citizenship" header on Federal Census Forms, which will indicate if the head of the family was Naturalized. If you know what county and state they immigrated to after arriving in the US, then check with the county courthouse. It holds the immigration records. Good luck!
2016-08-24 12:09:26 · answer #7 · answered by J 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2014-07-14 07:05:11 · answer #8 · answered by shirley 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have a friend from Alsace-Lorraine.
http://www.frenchwayoflife.net/int/alsace-lorraine.asp
http://www.discoverfrance.net/France/Provinces/Alsace-Lorraine.shtml
2007-06-22 16:01:57 · answer #9 · answered by pepper 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2016-07-02 15:42:33 · answer #10 · answered by DARRELL 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋