Okay, so you don't believe there is a God...?

Question

...wouldn't you have to agree that something smarter than us is behind life and the orgin of our universe? You don't have to call it God, but no one has an explanation for the orgin and creation of things that doesn't spawn a thousand more questions. Even the non-believer has to admit God is as much a possibility as anything else. Unless I'm wrong, is there another explanation that can be proven? If not, then at least admit the possibility of God.

Jill: I thought open discussion was a way of sharing knowledge. I guess you aren't in to that.

Lin: Really? I wasn't aware, I don't really like the avatar, and I'm pretty sure my own hair isn't frosted. Thanks, maybe I can change it and avoid embarrassment.

AMCJ: That is my whole point. Thanks.

arkansaszipper: give me a chance... the first step is admitting the possibility, we can deal with the personal involvement later, I don't want to stress you out, thinking is clearly not a priority for you.

Laptop: No offense taken at all, I guess your way of thinking is something I'm trying to understand because you're right, I have a tough time comprehending it.

queene 77- thanks, you get the question and it's nature.

Mato: I don't even think you believe that line of junk. So, it's all an accident? Now that is naive.

Heather to you: weak minded is one who is closed minded. You are clearly close minded. You have no proof of an alternative, to not accept the possibility is obtuse and you know it. You don't have the ammo to test my "weak" mind, don't bite off more than you can chew.

bigal90: you don't want to bring the Bible into it. I've read it, "Bible in a year", both like a book and have studied through years of church. I've opened with my wife and kids. Your naive insight is weak, great that you can read, too bad you can't understand it. If you need some help coming to terms with things you don't understand, just let me know.

Answer 1

I will admit the possibility. I don't see it as a strong possibility, but it is there. If God exists, and that's a HUGE "if", I think he is nothing like the Christians or the bible describe him

Answer 2

My analyzes of God differs from the "his" usaul philosophy of existence.
"Wouldn't you have to agree that something smarter than us is behind life and the origin of our universe? "

Answer:
1st we can not comprehend anything out the universe. Think of the universe like a box, we all live in it, what is outside of that box and who created that box, can only be determined by viewing entire and structure of the box.
2ND since we can not know the creator there is no point in theorizing about its existence. We can only see what it has been brought into existence.
3rdly I believe the universe created me. And this universe is the closest we can come to God.Why?
Because in primitive times when man did not have science, they viewed the universe with curious minds, and made up a controller outside of the universe, not realizing the universe its self was the one in control. I agree.

"You don't have to call it God, but no one has an explanation for the origin and creation of things that doesn't spawn a thousand more questions."
Argumentative explanation:
We have no idea what could have given matter its underlying properties that supposedly brought life about on an alive planet.
No one will ever know, are minds are stuck with in the understanding of the box called universe, we can not think of God.


"Even the non-believer has to admit God is as much a possibility as anything else. Unless I'm wrong, is there another explanation that can be proven? If not, then at least admit the possibility of God."
In agreement:
I do admit the possibility of something outside of the universe, that gave matter its properties.
Why not call it God. We must then realize that since the universe was made by God, that this extension of itself (God) is knowing what is ruling are every day lives.
Also if we assume that what occurred was God, we could now easily be living in the God.

Answer 3

To answer your questions.

1. Something smarter? Not necessarily. Nothingness begets something, why not? It's just as rational as thinking of a giant being somewhere deciding to take a week to build everything. Explain dinosaurs and animals and evolution. The universe is really only a few thousand years old? I doubt that much more than I doubt we *POOF* popped into existance.

2. We can prove there's a god, or not, when we figure out what happens when you die. That's why there's a God now. When old cultures didn't understand volcanoes and tidal waves, they made up Neptune and Vulcan. We can't explain death, so we still have a God. Once THAT mystery is proven, or solved, it'll disappear the same way Jupiter and Zeus did.

Is there a possibitilty? Yes. We can't prove him and we can't disprove him. So we're at in impass.

Answer 4

People really need to get a dictionary.

Athiest: a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Agnostic: a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.

I can accept agnostics. They admit that they don't really know if there is a God.

I can accept religious people who admit they belive in God but do so out of faith.

I cannot accept atheists. They "know" there is no God. That is not true. No one can prove a negative. There cannot be proof that God does not exist.

There is, at least some proof that God does exist. There are plenty of ancient writing that make that claim. It is not difinitive but it is proof of a sort. I mean, you can't really prove that Mosses existed or pretty much anyone else mentioned in ancient texts. That does not mean that they did not exist.

The emergence of Atheism in the last several decades is directly attributable to the emergence of socialism. You see, Atheism is mandatory in socialism. Socialism cannot work with any moral absolutes such as the ten commandments.

Socialism requires a kind of moral relativism that only atheism affords. In socialist societies, if the government decides you have had enough children, they can force abortions, sterilizations or even slaughter. If disabled or elderly are seen as being a drag on society, they can be euthanized.

If the government wants to keep the truth from you it is perfectly ok to lie. If some dissenter is seen as threatening, he can be prisoned with either a mock trial or no trial at all.

Without the moral absolutism only God provides, a socialist government can literally do whatever it wants, whenever it wants. Society as a whole is all that matters. Not individuals.
Rights are whatever government says they are and they can be revoked whenever government says they can.

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Answer 5

A god is theoretically possible -- it is hard to prove a negative. i.e. to prove that God does not exist.

However, life, the universe and everything can be reasonably well explained without resorting to any god hypothesis. You say that no one has an explanation for the origin and creation of things -- this is just not true. There are some good explanations that leave some unanswered questions, but at least there are questions that can be investigated. Just saying that there are no answers and therefore there must be a God is a failure of imagination and scientific creativity.

Answer 6

The "Big Bang" is not science at all since it is not based on direct observation or testable methods. In contradiction, it is adhered to "religiously" by those who wish to purposely reject the idea of accountability and a moral standard. Most people simply assumed this theory to be fact because their sixth grade teacher told them it was so. It's studied it along with the fact that the earth revolves around the sun, and that's certainly provable and accepted.

Personally-I would rather live my life knowing their is a God and finding out I was right--then to deny Him and find out I was wrong.

Answer 7

Yes but you need to be way more open minded than that. What if a alien civilizations millions of years more advanced than us created us? What if "god" is just an energy force that is in every living creature in the universe? We don't know. While I don't rule out the possibility of A god existing, I have ruled out the possibility of any of the gods in human religions existing.

Answer 8

Nope I don't have to agree any such thing


there is no possiblity of a god - it is a very silly idea - when anyone suggests it you make us sound like some primitive society worshipping a sun god because we don't know how it arrives every morning.

I believe there is a non supernatural explanation for the origin of the universe , there's no evidence to suggest otherwise -not knowing what the explanation is yet simply shows that humans aren't as smart as we like to think we are but we've only been around a few thousand years.

Answer 9

If it is impossible for the universe to exist without a creator, then why don't you ask the question, "If god created the universe, what created god?" Do you not see the fallacy in your argument? I suppose you will pull out the old "god has no creator, because god needs no creator." But you are just making stuff up now aren't you?


Hey, hey! respond to my comment, I want to see what you think is the explanation for god's existence! If you really think god had no creator, how can you find it unreasonable that people think the universe had no creator?

Answer 10

Admit the possibility of a single male creating anything that would cause trouble? Especially since 'He's' perfect to begin with? My reason says that is not reasonable.
Maybe, humans developed souls from the spirits that living creatures already were made with b/c different energies formed the different living creatures.
That seems much more reasonable to me than a mono-deity who creates anything without motivation.

Answer 11

Of course there is a "possibility" of god.

There is also a possibility that the universe is a 4th grade science fair project being conducted by some little girl from another dimension who lives on a planet that is a million years more advanced in science then we are.

Lot's of things are possible.