Lutheran girl wants to convert a Jew, what is she really thinking?

Question

Hi,

I met a Lutheran girl who was physically attracted to me from the start. We went out and appears that she wants to convert me (I am Jewish). She asked me what I thought about God after our second date and gave me some Christian book to read.

My question is, what do you think she really thinks about me being Jewish? She says that I should consider everything, including the Koran(sp?) and else.

As I said, she was physically attracted to me from the start. She started talking to me and introduced herself to me outside of class, without knowing I was Jewish until I told her when we went on our 'first date'.

Answer 1

this is a religious matter.this is a serious thing.i ope you think carefully because this will effect your life.may be she think about the difference of her religious and your.may be she likes you.and may be your religion become the 'wall' between you and her.i hope you think carefully.

Answer 2

I'm a Christian and there's no need to convert you! Judaism in my mind is the highest form of religion. According to the Bible - the Jews are God's chosen people, he refers to them as the apple of His eye. They have been under God's protection from the start. For a Jew to trust Jesus for their eternal salvation does not change the fact that they are a Jew and it doesn't mean you have to leave Judaism. I think there are some people who are not well informed on history and the Bible in my opinion. God protected Israel through the holocaust when every possible circumstance was against them and they could have been annihilated - they are now a nation - that's beyond any miracle I can think of in history and how the bible's prophecy on that came true - is unmistakable. Perhaps your Lutheran girlfriend does not have all of the information she claims to have studied because I think she may have missed the view presented by the Jews for Jesus organization. If you want to understand what I'm saying - take a look - I'm not trying to convert you - just giving you an idea of where my statements are coming from. You'll find this absolutely fascinating information to share with your girlfriend that will open her eyes on some things and give you some really interesting things to talk about. If you discuss some of these things - you may really get down deeper into the matter and enjoy the conversation. She obviously interested, you just need to get to the heart of the religious issue - and show her the incredible value and how amazing it is to be Jewish - maybe it's you who should be converting her!!!

Answer 3

How is a Gentile to know what is Jewish today unless specifically instructed by the Jew currently speaking? When thinking of what is Jewish, should a Gentile think more like Dr. Laura or Barbara Streisand since the Jew speaking will claim to speak for all Jews including Laura and Barb?

Are you like Mark S who said:
1. “"We believe that Jewishness is a birthright. It is inherited from our parents. Our people are not of one culture; we have diverse cultural expressions (Ashkenazi/Sephardi, Georgian/Russian, Ethiopian, Persian, etc.). Our people are not of one religion. While Judaism might be the traditional religion for many Jewish people, Jews are still considered Jewish even though they might be atheists or even if they embrace other beliefs." Those who say that Jews who believe in Jesus are errant Jews or misguided Jews are entitled to their opinions. But they are not entitled to negate our Jewishness. We are Jews by birth and that cannot change."

If being Jewish is determined by birthright, then shouldn't there be a DNA test that demonstrates who is and who isn't Jewish. If bloodline matters, shouldn't the amount of Gentile blood be known to all?

But you can't claim purity of lineage and also logically claim all the persecution too. Isn’t the reason women now pass down the lineage instead of men because when the Temple was destroyed the second time, so many men where killed and women raped that who the biological father was became in question? Rather than answer the biology question, didn't they just switched from men to women without considering whether it was Torah observant?

And even if a written record was able to survive up to the destruction of the second Temple, how could someone prove lineage to David from that time to now?

And because the majority claim that Yeshua was not the Messiah, doesn't that also prove Daniel was not a true prophet?



Or do you say being Jewish is by beliefs? If it is by beliefs / religion, then what your parents believed should not enter into the picture, should they? I mean there is no metaphysical links between who one's biological parents are physically and the children's beliefs, are there?

Nor can you logically say the first Temple was destroy because and the Jews lack of faith and rebuilt by their faith .
.....and then say the the second Temple was destroy because the Jews were faithful and the Temple has not been rebuilt because the Jews are being faithful.
To claim both ways are Torah observant would never make sense to those outside of Judaism.

Nor can Jews say that the reason Moses was banned from the Promised Land was because he didn't follow instructions given to him by the LORD and then say it is OK not to have Rabbis "teach" from only instruction the LORD gives today.....without being extremely confusing to an outsider who would also want the G-d or Israel to do something G-dly like what was recorded about 3500 years ago.

If Elijah was to enter a house calling for his return today, would he ask, where is your G-d? This was a question he asked the majority of prophets teaching in Israel in his day?

Or do Jews once again look like grasshoppers in their own eyes? Those Jews voting for this position won a couple million to 4. So why could argue that the majority couldn't be Jewish and think this way today?

I know that which appears like polar opposites to Gentiles don't to Jews. But your girl friend is confused on how there are no wrong way for a Jew to speak about Judaism and there is no right way for a Gentile to speak about Judaism....even thought they say the exact same thing.

Answer 4

She is attracted to you? Try telling her about your Jewish background, give her some Jewish books to read. Teach her about the Torah and the originally of the Jew. Tell her she need not be a Jew, but her child will be required to be a Jew and cannot take on Christianity ..... then see her reaction. If she truly loves you, then there is hope, else, try the next girl in the line. Oh .... don't forget the part where god said only Jews will be saved :D.

Tell her she can try reading up other books such as Buddhist, Hindus, Taoist and all other things, give her her own advice.

One thing about Christians I do not appreciate is their view where non-christians have to convert to their faith.

Answer 5

She wants you to become a Christian (I assume) because she is. I don't get the Koran reference, maybe you should ask her about that one... According to the(Christian) bible, she shouldn't even date you b/c you're not Christian... it's called being evenly yolked. Just a question, how Jewish are you? are you devout? Do you observe the food laws? Or are you a very secular Jew? Maybe she doesn't think your religion is so strong in you that she couldn't change it...

Um, if you do progress in the relationship wouldn't you be worried that any kids you would have with her wouldn't be tech. Jewish... unless SHE converted?

Answer 6

Whatever else she is or isn't, it seems clear to me that she is not very accepting of your religion. For crying out loud, she went so far as to say that you should consider being a Muslim rather than Jewish!! Find a good Jewish girl, you mother will thank me!

You are probably a very good looking sexy guy. Most Jewish men are. (Ah... sigh... oh to be 20 something again. Sigh...) You can find a better woman who will accept your religion and you. Good luck.

Answer 7

Simple really ask her if she is so hell bent on you converting then why doesn't she consider converting to Judaism? When she throws a fit tell her your point of view. Be straight forward, blunt, and to the point because then she will be forced to recognize just how serious you are. No one should have to tell you what to believe in part of being in love is accepting a person for who they are, and learning to compromise with that person without sacrificing either persons integrity.

Answer 8

If I were you, I would tell her that you are Jewish, you are proud of it and you are going to stay that way. Then, you'll know what she really thinks because she will either accept you for who you are or she won’t.

While you're at it, ask her if she's considered Judaism.

Answer 9

Why don't you both become Atheists, that way you would both have to sacrifice something rather than just one of you and also you'd get along much better because you wouldn't have religion in the way.

Answer 10

In her mind shes saving your soul...

Thats why I like talking to those Mormon salemen in the nude...

They never stick around long...