woold someone explain this to me ?

Question

How is it that after 5 years in Iraq the Iraqi people can not build a military large enough to protect a country roughly the size of california ,but the U.S. can take aperson send them to basic training (8 weeks) , a mos school (any where from 5 weeks to a half a year) and later send them to a training camp for a couple of months ,slap a weapon in their hands and I be danged its off to war

Answer 1

i think if you think about it for just 5 more minutes, youll have the answer -

Answer 2

Jeepers has hit the nail on the head. The stupidest thing that the US did when it "won" in Iraq was to disband the military.

They should have removed the senior leaders that were loyal to Saddam and left the rest of the military intact. Once the military was disbanded where do you think all those soldiers went? I am sure that many of them were recruited by the insurgents.

If the standing military had been re-organized under new leadership it could have secured Iraq's borders and many of the foreign insurgents that came in and stirred up ethnic tensions would not have entered Iraq and caused the civil war.

This is an example of lack of planning. The Sec of Defence did not have a plan for what to do after the military had won the battle. They should have looked at what General Marshall and the allies did after WWII to ensure that Germany and Italy did not fall into utter chaos.

Answer 3

Check your demographics --

The median age in Iraq is somewhere around 20. Most were born under Saddam Hussein's dictatorship and during the Iran-Iraq War; they know nothing of the outside world, Democracy, nor the military, nor the police, other than one gets to wander around in a uniform, and carry weapons openly. (The fine details of what to do -- and not do -- with those weapons are beyond them, for now.)

Only about three-quarters of them can read and write (that's an optimistic guesstimate, most likely.) Most get all their information by word-of-mouth.

Unemployment (2007) is around 25%. My guess? Most of those can neither read nor write.

(Source: CIA World Fact-book, Iraq.)


Can a demographic group like that reason for themselves? Would they?

In contrast, the U.S. literacy rate is over 99%. It's assumed that a new private can read, has at least appreciated some form of democratic government through his entire life, and knows right from wrong.

Which one is more readily trainable, given the lethality of the weaponry today?

Five years is not enough time to educate a people who have not had a decent education in their first twenty. It will take more time than anyone has so far cared to admit -- probably, another generation; assuming solid schools, and a working government.

Gaucho

Answer 4

The US has alot $$$$ and that can change things alot. it may be that iraqs the size of calafornia but you try getting an army out of calafornia to fight together when San Fransico and San Diego is at war with Los Angeles?? Iraq is a civil war mate and there is no way an army would stop things youd probably as an officer give your new recruit a rifle and hed turn round and shoot you with it. Also to create an effective soldier the training your mentioning is a joke.

Answer 5

They are in their own country, and many still have loyalties outside of the military! Sectarian issues are major ones in Iraq. People also have family in Iraq and a bomb can hit them as well as retaliation. So, you are talking apples and oranges.

Moreover, In the 2 times we attacked the Iraq military, they ran. They really have no reason to fight!

Iraqi Security forces, very conservatively, has had over 29,000 killed since Jan 2006!

Now you know why we keep religion out of politics!

Answer 6

What do you think would happen, if you took a platoon of US soldiers, right out of AIT and sent them to war, with no NCO's or Officers ?

It wouldn't be pretty.

People always forget the nco's and officers.

The US takes a new recruit, right out of AIT and sends him to a squad, lead by a squad leader with 5 to 8 years experience, and puts him on a fire team, lead by a fire team leader with 2 to 4 years experience, serving along other soldiers with a year of experience.

That soldier has lots of experienced soldiers to help him adjustand learn how to be a soldier.

In Iraq on the other hand, everyone is brand new.

They have no experienced soldiers in the Army.

No NCO's with 8 years experience, No officers with 8 years experience.

It takes alot of time, to train NCO's and Officers.

Training the individual soldiers iis just the first step.

Then you have to train the squads, then the platoons, then companies, then battalion's.

In WW ll, it took the US 2 1/2 years to train a new Division, even though they started with a core of experience NCO's and Officers.

In Iraq, we are training new divisions, starting with NO experienced NCO's and Officers.

It takes time and experience to train those NCO's.

Answer 7

Our cultures are so different.

Most people in the USA would fight for their country and countrymen before they fought for their church.

So if you train a person to be a soldier, the odds are overwhelming high, if the government does something to disagree with his religion, he will turn that training back on the government.

Which is what is occuring with the civil war, and different branches of Islam.

Answer 8

well everyone in iraq is shiite or sunni. once trained they take the weapons and training and go back to their militias, they refuse to fight against their own kind, they desert if asked to, with the weapons we give them. could the europeans have come to america in the middle of the civil war and formed a joint blue/gray peace-keeping force to fight both the csa and usa. would that have ended the civil war or made it worse.

Answer 9

It takes longer to build an army that it does to train a soldier. It's not just a matter of training the soldiers, it's a matter of building the infrastructure of the army.

Answer 10

If you lived in Iraq, would you want to join their army?
People there just want to survive. Those who want guns, have them. President Bush estimated the total of Iraqi CIVILIANS killed at roughly 30,000. So there doesn't seem to be much motivation to up your chances of being killed by joining the army.