Who was Yehsuah ibn Yoseph.? Was he really Jesus of the bible.?

Question

I am quoting from a wonderful answer I had yesterday by 'the real Ed-Mike':

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His name was Yehsuah ibn Yoseph(Romans being the Greekophiles they were Constantine renamed him Jesus during the creation of the Catholic Church) He was a Rabbi(Learned Holy man teacher who studied and taught the Torah) From a well to do family (Joseph his father was a master tradesman carpenter from the house of David i.e. King David) By the way a thirty year old Rabbi is always married. He taught a radically reformed Judaism that challenged the power of The Temple. He empowered the poor and downtrodden and declared wealth to be a hindrance to salvation. His intelligent, compassionate interpretation of the Law was also easy to understand. He spoke in parables that reached the simple as well as the learned.

Unfortunately for His life His followers became so impassioned by His teachings that the declared Him Messiah, and King of the Jews. Out of fear of a reprisal from the Roman Gov. Pilot similar to the one he performed in Samaria 5years before (200 cross's on the road side) The Sanhedrin had Him arrested and tried for sedition.
His manner of meeting His death with an unprecedented Majesty and an actual compassion for His Killers so moved the crowds that the uprising they hoped to quell with his execution immediately occurred.

Josephus The Jewish Historian often believed to be Joseph of Arimethia.
P.S. Paul constently referres in his teachings and letters to Christ, and His teachings.

Unfortunately for His life His followers became so impassioned by His teachings that the declared Him Messiah, and King of the Jews. Out of fear of a reprisal from the Roman Gov. Pilot similar to the one he performed in Samaria 5years before (200 cross's on the road side) The Sanhedrin had Him arrested and tried for sedition.
His manner of meeting His death with an unprecedented Majesty and an actual compassion for His Killers so moved the crowds that the uprising they hoped to quell with his execution immediately occurred.

Source(s):
Josephus The Jewish Historian often believed to be Joseph of Arimethia.
P.S. Paul constently referres in his teachings and letters to Christ, and His teachings.

You're absolutely right. Unfortunately for His life His followers became so impassioned by His teachings that the declared Him Messiah, and King of the Jews. Out of fear of a reprisal from the Roman Gov. Pilot similar to the one he performed in Samaria 5years before (200 cross's on the road side) The Sanhedrin had Him arrested and tried for sedition.
His manner of meeting His death with an unprecedented Majesty and an actual compassion for His Killers so moved the crowds that the uprising they hoped to quell with his execution immediately occurred.

Source(s):
Josephus The Jewish Historian often believed to be Joseph of Arimethia.
P.S. Paul constently referres in his teachings and letters to Christ, and His teachings.

.I firmly believe Paul took the teachings of an Essene rabbi called Jesus and rearranged them to fit the Mithras mythology. There were many wannabe messiahs around the time of Jesus; the man who could establish a religion based on a "real" messiah would be a very powerful and respected man, which Paul apparently wanted to be.

The fact that Paul never met Jesus, and that Jesus never foretold Paul's appearance (unless it was included in his warning about deceivers that would fool "the very elect"), should be proof that Paul had no authority in real Christianity.

Answer 1

Well, we will never know for sure, but I think so.
Jesus lived in a time when many cults, and many different versions of religions were cropping up everywhere (does that sound familiar?)
I not sure if he was teaching Judaism, if so, it was a sort of enhanced form.
People tried to put a name to it, but it was so new, there was no name to call it.
The ideas that that the poor and downtrodden was especially appealing...to slaves, as well. The idea that we are all equal in the eyes of God was new.

Answer 2

Yes! Yeshuah is simply a transliteration into English of a Hebrew name which in the Greek-speaking world became Iesous, and in Latin Iesus, or Jesus. Nobody 'renamed him' - the earliest Christians, Jews and non-Jews, spoke Greek. ibn Yoseph is simply again a translation of Hebrew words which mean 'son of Joseph'. There is no reason to believe that Joseph was a 'master tradesman carpenter', the texts simply say 'carpenter'. Joseph of Arimathea was not Joseph the Jewish Historian, or Josephus. Clearly Jesus was itinerant, not a holder of a certain job in a synagogue. The Essenes had 'rabbis' who were not married. It is not historically reasonable to say 'a thirty year old Rabbi is always married'.

Oh, and the word 'Christ' is not from Greek 'kristos meaning exalted one', it is from Greek khristos (or christos) meaning 'anointed one', the Greek equivalent of Messiah.

Answer 3

Whew. Where to begin?

Hmm. Well, first off, I would say that the Bible never indicates that Jesus got His formal Rabbi accreditation. "Rabbi" essentially means "teacher," and that's how He was addressed. Jesus was never married; no RELIABLE accounts (first or at the most second-hand-- and those DO exist; more on that later) indicate that He was. Not that it would really matter. But I don't recall a law in Scripture that ANYONE had to be married by 30. That's a pretty broad, unsubstantiable assertion, to say ALL 30-year-old rabbis were married. Prove that.

Yeah, they translated Yeshua as "Jesus" in the Greek. So what? It's the same name, just the Greek version. What difference does it make. Jewish believers still do call Him Yeshua. We're talking about the same person.

Paul was not Mithraic. He was a former Pharisaic Jew. So I highly doubt he was spinning the Gospel to support some Roman pagan philosophy. And he was writing his letters and so forth within about TWENTY years of Jesus' death and resurrection. Sorry, I'll trust his authenticity a long time before I trust some Gnostic writings from two hundred years later. Paul may not have met Jesus in the flesh, but he had a first-hand encounter, AND he knew Jesus' disciples personally. Peter and John, for example. And his writings agreed with theirs. If you can't trust what Peter and John had to say about Jesus, I'd like to know how you'd lend any credibility to anyone else.

And finally, Peter, who wrote his epistles within the first couple of decades after Jesus' ascension, was convinced enough of Who Jesus was to submit to being tortured to death rather than deny Him, as were all the other disciples except John, who died in exile for his testimony.

If you can compile that much evidence for YOUR faith, then stick with it.

P.S. Julia's made a whole lot of accusations without quoting sources or examples. For example, I've never read any credible criticism against Josephus' account of Christ. Some have taken his words too far, and read them as though Josephus himself was a believer, of which there is no evidence. But Josephus did refer to Jesus Christ and His ministry and death, as well as the rumors of His resurrection. If someone has any evidence to the contrary, I'd like to see it; otherwise I would say with some confidence that that "fact" was at least subject to debate. And besides him and Tacitus, there was also Pliny's first-century account of the Christians, who were completely incorrigible to the point of death in their faith.

And I have heard probably dozens of people say that Jesus and His teachings were simply fabricated from other mythologies, word for word. And yet, not ONCE has anyone given a valid example. Or shown why someone would knowingly plaigarize another religion, and then die for their plaigarized story.

Answer 4

The reference in Josephus to Jesus were long ago proven to be frauds, inserted by someone with an agenda because there are actually no writings mentioning Jesus from the time he was supposed to have lived. So toss that one out, including your Best Answer, for quoting it.

There is ONE other mention of Jesus by the Roman historian Tacticus, and this is very questionable, because he gets details wrong and the style of writing that passage doesn't match the rest of his writing whatsoever - more than likely a fraud is the consensus among scholars both religious and secular.

So altogether we have TWO mentions of Jesus from the time he was alive, and both are frauds. Even if they WEREN'T frauds.....TWO mentions?? For the messiah of the entire world??

The Jews in Israel never heard of him, the majority of Jews lived outside of Israel then and never heard of him, the Romans never heard of him as they have NO writings mentioning him at all during the time he was supposed to have lived, and no other society anywhere in the world does either.

The story you've chosen as Best Answer is just that, a story created by Christianity based on ancient pagan religions that had the exact SAME circumstances in their religions that match, detail for detail, the birth circumstances, the growing up, and the death of Jesus in the Christian bible. I mean EXACTLY.

Even down to them each and every one, saying "No man goes to the Father except through me." All were born of a god and a virgin, all were wise beyond their years, all rebelled against the established priests or temples, all empowered the poor and downtrodden, all declared wealth to be a hindrance to salvation, and they all spoke in parables.

Furthermore, ALL, without exception, taught that "No man comes to the Father except by me". And all were crucified or some other closely matching death such as being nailed to a tree, and all went down to the underworld for 3 days and then arose. ALL of them.

Just in case you didn't know, NONE of this exists in Judaism for the messiah, and never has. And people wonder why the Jews don't accept Jesus as the Messiah? He is a compilation of earlier "saviour" stories from ancient pagan religions around LONG before Judaism, long before Christianity.

In the Talmud there are 3 mentions of men named Yeshua, at different times, and all in different years. None of them matches either the time Jesus would have lived, and none matches the circumstances described in the New Testament.

Yeshua translates as Joshua in English, and Yeshua was a very common name then among Jews, and still is. That's because Jews name their sons after (Yeshua) Joshua who took over from Moses when he died and was a great leader.

To find out what Jews actually believe:
http://www/jewfaq.org
http://www.jewsforjudaism.com
http://www.messiahtruth.com

Why Jews don't believe in Jesus:
http://www.aish.com/spirituality/philosophy/Why_Dont_Jews_Believe_In_Jesus$.asp

http://ohr.edu/ask/ask00j.htm (includes the ACTUAL prophecies, rather than the ones the Christians invented)

http://www.askmoses.com/article.html?h=120&o=350

http://shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/faq/17-03.html


To find out where Christianity got it's pagan foundations such as a man/god born of a virgin, god becoming a man, virgin human blood sacrifice for sin, etc.
http://www.drazin.com
Be sure to read the chapter on "Ancient man/gods".

Answer 5

This is esoteric and Coptic malarkey.

Quite amusing but a story nonetheless.

Enjoy the story but keep in mind it is false and denies that Jesus is from and of God Almighty.

Read it as coming from someone that does not believe that Jesus is the Messiah and does not believe that Jesus is the Savior.

Then you will see it is from a non Christian but makes a great story albeit false.

Jesus was not an Essene. He was a Nazarene and a Priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.

Answer 6

JESUS: "God is salvation." Jesus, or Yeshua ben yoseph (Joshua son of Joseph), is the name of a biblical figure believed by Christians to have been the son of God and the virgin Mary. According to the New Testament, he preached for four years before being crucified on a cross in Jerusalem

YESHAYA: Variant of Hebrew Yeshayahu, meaning "God is salvation."
YESHAYAHU: Original Hebrew form of biblical Isaiah, meaning "God is salvation."
YESHUA: Aramaic form of Jesus, meaning "God is salvation."

YOSEPH: Variant of Hebrew Yosef, meaning "shall add," which is usually taken to mean "God will add another son."

Answer 7

You left out the Old Testament messianic prophecies which were fulfilled by Jesus. On top of that, you also left out his ressurection. If there was no ressurection his followers who would not risked their lives for a myth. That simply is not human nature.

Peace and blessings!

Answer 8

No. He wasn't teaching anything new. Jesus ben Sirach was alive 500 years before Yeshua 'ibn' Yoseph and taught it all way ahead of him. Besides, Moses taught the golden rule. Check out Leviticus.

Answer 9

yeshuah bin yoseph of Nazareth is jesus son of Joseph and according to history he had black dreadlocks and bronze skin.
Greek people changed his name to jesus christ. the word christ was never his name, christ is the greek word kristos meaning "one who is anointed"

Paul of tarsus never met Yeshua in person, in fact, the new testament was not written until many years after Yeshua died. yeshua ben Yosef is not responsible for the contents of anything in the New Testament.

Answer 10

Certianly Jesus of the bible who said 'i will return 'and his servants compild the good book.

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