Can anyone prove these statistics to be false? metro? petey? msjester?

Question

These stats are compiled from the Department of Defense, American Automobile Association and the General Accounting Office.

55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities.

At the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in all U.S. jails and prisons.

Illegal aliens murder
12 Americans daily.

4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens.

Total U.S. troop deaths in Iraq as of last week were reported at 2,863. Total U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan during the five years of the Afghan campaign are currently at 289, according to the Department of Defense. Total number of murders commited by illegal aliens since Sept. 11, 2001: 21,900

13 American citizens are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers each day.

Eight American children are victims of sexual abuse by illegal aliens every day – a total of 2,920 annually.

36 percent had been arrested at least five times before.

ORH...I've posted my source numerous times. Don't be lazy. Do you own work.

Jester...the response I expected from you. Again don't be lazy and do the research. It took me all of 5 min. to find that information.

metro. Again the response I expected from you. The question I asked was prove me wrong. Once again you have failed. You asked me to provide you with links. I did that since you sent me an email requesting the information. You refuse to believe the stats since it was published on a "anti-immigration stie" as you say. However those numbers come from the DOD, AAA and GAO. Are you saying that those three agencies are anti-immigrant? Thus the reason you refuse to believe the information?

metro, jester still waiting on your proof...petey are you out there? HELLO?

Jester:
In April 2005, the Government Accountability Office released a report on a study of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003.

What part of Government Accountability Office is not a government agency? Still waiting.

Jeter...if you feel I'm comparing you to metro I honestly apologize. That was never my intent.

AaronAA. Same question goes for you. Prove me wrong. Looks like you have failed as well. What part about those numbers compiled from the Departrment of Defense, The American Automobile Association and the General Accountability Office are wrong. Which ever internet site that chooses to publish them does not mean they are incorrect. Nice rant though I give you a -D

sonrisa. No where in my post did I state that these are the majority of crimes commited. You simply believed that for some reason. My post was rather simple. I provided factual statistics detailed from three different agencies(two of which are governmental)and asked the readers to prove those stats wrong. Nowhere do I infer right or wrong or which side I support.

Leck I appreciate your research, something that is lost on a few who answered this question. However it doesn't answer my original question which was to disprove the stats I posted.

Answer 1

Thanks!

It is amazing how some people here will continue to defend these criminals in spite of all the evidence to show that they are wrong (e.g., Metro and Mrs. Jeter drive me crazy).

Answer 2

Now you know why I shot your dog.LOL Anyway, I don't think this is a fair question.The people you mention in it have the same stand as I do but yet you and I can disagree and still get along.But to answer your question love your stats are probably true.What you fail to mention is how many American citizens also commit crimes.But even that is moot because no one on here says ALL illegals are nice people and don't commit crimes.There are bad ones no one disputes that.Those are the types I wish we had more say in getting rid of and deport pronto.Heck I wish we could deport some Americans but we as a country are too soft on the worst of all people including our own.Take care and I'm seriously thinking of returning the remote.LOL

Answer 3

Ok, lets do the math! If it were true that 29% of the prison population were "illegals" that would include people from all the other countries collectively. There are approximately 245 entities considered to be countries. On December 31, 2005; 2,193,798 prisoners were held in Federal or State prisons or in local jails giving us 1557596.58 illegals. That would mean that if all countries were represented we would have 2504.73 from each country in jail on that same year

Now lets toss the the coin. The remaining 71% or 636201.42 of the general prison population were "Americans"! This means (you guessed it) we break more of our own laws and go to jail for it.

Over all population at year end 2005 there were 3,145 black male sentenced prison inmates per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,244 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 471 white male inmates per 100,000 white males.

Most prisons only place the populations in 3 groups Black, White, & Hispanic. From experience some Asians & Sout Americans are grouped with Hispanics and most European nations are considered white including the Arab counries. Anyone else they consider to look black (African descent) is grouped as Black. Also this is Males Only!

Answer 4

OK...so let's put this into perspective. In the year 2005 the US Census reported that there were 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, and that's just the number of those that would even speak with someone from the Census, so there are definitely more.

As far as the crimes the MINORITY of them commit, no, it's not right, and those that have committed crimes (other than crossing the border) shouldn't be allowed to stay and, in fact, are usually deported within a year of their sentencing. Your data is probably true, but with all good things comes some bad. The numbers you provide do not represent some disproportionate amount of crime when compared to the actual number of illegal immigrants in the country.

By not providing the numbers of actual undocumented immigrants you are skewing the information to make it appear as though the majority of illegal immigrants are criminals when this is not true.

I wrote this on another post and I'll write it again for the majority of them, their only crime was crossing the border in search of the "American Dream" that many of them believe can be a reality. In the US we have lost sight of that dream and take for granted everything we have.

Think about what many of these people went through to get here, the families that they left and send money to in hopes of providing them with something better, the wives and children they can't hold again so they can monetarily support them in a horrible economy. Yes, SOME commit crimes other than crossing the border, but not the majority.

EDIT: I said that your information made it seem as if the majority of illegal immigrants commit crimes, not that the majority of crimes are committed by illegal immigrants. And no, you didn't take sides, but by posting the negative information without providing any positive information is somewhat indicative of where you stand on the issue. Even by prefacing the statistics with "of 11 million+ undocumented immigrants in the United States, the following statistics have been determined:", it would have put a completely different spin on your question. Just an observation.

Answer 5

I can't confirm or deny your statistics, I can only speak from experience. Having worked as a patrol Sergeant in a rural community I can tell you that illegal, er sorry undocumented americans commit a significant number of crimes. This information is hard to compile statistically because we could never attempt to identify their nationality. Because no one cared if they were illegal, the Border Patrol would not pick them up, we did not compile that type of statistical data.

Answer 6

For those posters Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
They can't refute you or they would have. So what did they do? They called names and did all of their usual song and dance. They have a major problem. That problem is to overcome that pesky little word "Illegal" which defines the legal status of these invaders.
Nicely done.
To the Pros that can't refute...you're number 1 in my book.
LMAO.

Logic...the other white meat.

Answer 7

O....K... WOW.... Sound "Research" you've copied and pasted from some "valid" site. Jajaja.. I mean Hahaha...Penedejo!

You should do the same for American Citizens, do a comparative analysis, haha.

Answer 8

Yeah, by providing an updated link with a .Gov at the End!!!

The link has to confirm obviously the info you just opined on!!!

Answer 9

no they can't the stats are true, denial is sad...

and i love the arguement about, well u.s citizens do it too. lol so yes this makes it right for illegals to do it to then huh? i mean lets let all the prisoners out while were at it, lets not try to prevent any possible crime anymore all because u.s citizens do it too. you know because if we simply kicked out the offending illegal criminals that would decrease crime...but who cares because u.s citizens do it too right...lol

and i've had a personal experience with an illegal alien. and i've seen the crimes he's commited. but oh no he just wants a better life right....thats why he drank all the time and did drugs and tried to hurt me with a knife and then smash my car windows in, and steal peoples ID cards (including my own) whenever he found wallets and drove around drunk all the time...but oh no he just wanted a better life right...

oh and it wasnt just him either, his friends were just as bad and just as illegal.

Answer 10

But they work hard to break the law everyday! But your ancestors immigrated here too! But they are just trying to feed their families, they don't need to obey the laws!