Do you think there is a hypocrisy in how we expect immigrants to act and how we act?

Question

It seems that when it comes to long wait times for people entering the country to become residents or citizens, there is a feeling that this isn't a big deal, and they should wait however long it takes. Yet when it comes to long wait times for passport applications, people are quicker to say the government needs to hurry, or isn't performing reasonably.

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Do you think there is a hypocrisy in these two situations? Is there a relation in these two situations?

Yes, I did ask these two questions with the idea of seeing how answers would be similar or different.

The problem is with the government. Obviously there is a difference between the two populations. But in one instance, we say "it takes as long as it takes", and in the other instance we are saying "hurry up, it shouldn't take this long".

Also, it is okay to admit a hypocrisy toward the way the government is handling the two groups. If one has reasons to take a long time, and the other doesn't, then it is logical that a hypocrisy would exist. But simply pointing out the differences in the groups sort of skates the question I asked.

Answer 1

those are two different subjects, one is simply travel, the other is gaining citizenship. the immigration bill is a much bigger deal than how long it takes for you to get a passport.

Answer 2

There is no hypocrisy. It is like comparing apples to oranges.

Your statement that "if one has reasons to take a long time, and the other doesn't, then it is logical that a hypocrisy would exist.

NO IT IS NOT LOGICAL. A hypocrisy would exist if the two procedures were identical, which they are not.

The procedures are not identical, similar, or like. Therefore no hypocrisy exists.

The only way a hypocrisy would exist would be if two immigrants, applied to immigrate to the same country, from the same country, and one was substantially longer than the other for no good reason.

We are not talking about 2 immigrants. We are talking about immigrants versus tourists!!!!

Answer 3

The most important purpose of a government is to take care of its citizens before the residents living here. This is why the government should deport the illegals: they are ruining life for citizens. The government should be faster in helping its citizens but it should also be reasonable in foreign immigration. My parents and their brothers and sisters have immigrated from india twenty years ago and have been paying taxes ever since. They have worked hard and have become citizens. Now, my aunt wants to bring her husband over(he owns land here), and he has been waiting 10 years or more. She has been waiting for her citizenship for 3 years. This is not reasonabl at all considering the rest of her family are full-fledged citizens of the united states. Because of the length of time that has elapsed, she is no longer able to have children and her life is a bit of a mess. She works in major company(buy.com) and would not leech of the system(she pays taxes).

This is why illegal immigration is bad. Illegal immigrants do not pay taxes, yet leech of our systems. They are not (usually) well-off yet want to bring their family over(who will pull them further down). This is the true hipocrisy not the citizens of a government critcising their government for not fulfilling their duties.

Answer 4

No.....I agree with the one poster....one's citizenship and one's travel. It's apples and oranges. I do beleive however legal immigrants do have to wait too long for citizenship. I mean waiting 15 years and all, is too long when it's your life base you're talking about.......all the while never knowing if or when it takes place. I mean you're building a career or raising families and it seems rather cruel to me to hang people in limbo like that. I think if you've gone the legal route from the beginning....5-7 years should be all the time it takes. If you get a no....there's still time to salvage your life back in your home country.

Our government systems are pitiful. If any other system was so inferior we'd never have a running business of any type. I've never had to re-submit papers as much as I do for any other thing unless it's government related. They loose more things and aren't timely in anything they do. The left hand never seems to know what the right hand is doing yet we are set to standards they couldn't begin to meet.

Answer 5

I don't see a hypocrisy at all. If you would like to become an American citizen you do it the right way. If it takes 6 mo to 20 years. Because it takes a long time, does that mean we should create an instant amnesty.

Oh and how does a passport and citizenship compare. Hey let me ask you something, Because it takes 20 years to become a citizen and retirement age is 65 years...does that mean we should create a "pathway to retirement?"

Answer 6

Totally different subjects that are non comparable.
There are
many people who are trying to emmigrate to the US I was one of them and there is a wait end of story mine took 20 years.There are millions lining up and nobody should be able to jump over those who were before you AS for a passport, I personally don`t care as I am not sorely in need of one and can wait.Those that need one emergently should be able to get one at the head of theline otherwise plan accordingly and you too shall have one.
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Answer 7

It takes time to become a citizen because you have to pay your dues and learn about your new country and decided if you really want to be part of it. A passport is a different issue.You can't wait years to take a trip.

Answer 8

First off we are Americans and the government should work for US! So we should come first. When the government gets done helping us then it can help out the illegals. Only seems fair.

Answer 9

Hey Animal...allow me to provide you, AGAIN, with some REAL statistics...ready?

55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities.

At the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in all U.S. jails and prisons.

Illegal aliens murder
12 Americans daily.

4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens.

Total U.S. troop deaths in Iraq as of last week were reported at 2,863. Total U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan during the five years of the Afghan campaign are currently at 289, according to the Department of Defense. Total number of murders commited by illegal aliens since Sept. 11, 2001: 21,900

13 American citizens are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers each day.

Eight American children are victims of sexual abuse by illegal aliens every day – a total of 2,920 annually.

36 percent had been arrested at least five times before

Answer 10

I expect immigrants to be held accountable if they break the laws of this country. Illegal immigrants have already broken the law by crossing the border. If I break the law, I expect to be punished.