Agree/disagree: Adam and Eve didn't fall -- they were TRIPPED! ?

Question

The whole free will/temptation thing, if you recall, was God's idea.

Answer 1

You can use the same argument for every sin in real life. So, I don't think religious people will buy it.

Answer 2

Here is the basis of what happened:

Yes, God created us with free will. A dictator or a self serving being would have created robots with no choices for his personal entertainment. God does not fit that description.

Perfect love creates beings that can willingly love Him back.
Yes, He knew that a lesser being with free will would choose foolishly eventually. So, He had the plan to get us back before He even created us. If He didn't, He wouldn't be omnipotent.

He created the angels first. They had it all from the beginning and some still decided against His authority. When they fell there was no way back. So, God created a different way for us.

Satan was the highest angel, answering only to God, but even that wasn't good enough for him. The Bible says he wanted to be as God. And that was the sin that caused his fall. When he tempted Adam, he needed him to believe that eating the fruit would cause him to be "as God" too. It wasn't true, but because Adam was saying that he didn't want to be under God's authority anymore he fell.

So, yeah, the devil set him up. But, what the devil meant for harm, God meant for good. You and I are now in a better position to decide to allow God to be our authority. We are born already away from God. So we can screw up thousands of times before we ask to come back. In this way, we can learn what it is like to be away from God and make wrong choices without risk.

You can't know what love is until you have felt lonliness, or what peace is without pain, hot without cold, etc... We are learning it all. The bible even says that the angels watch us and learn.

-Mike

Answer 3

RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHY would tell you that the divine nature of God--allows for a plan that would permit a knowledge of human will and thus the plan of God philosophically was man had an option and failed the test. The results of that failure led to a greater Good for Humanity in the salvation of mankind. No one can know the mind of an infinite SUPREME BEING.

Answer 4

I think that there is where sin came about.God himself was
the father,and he was free of sin,so Adam and Eve ate of
the forbidden fruit. That is why man lost a rib and women
bear the pain of having children

Answer 5

Does death for disobedience sound like a trip to you? Adam and Eve fell big time and never got back up. Adam had free will. He just misused it and paid dearly for it.

Answer 6

Agree.

Here's another one for you: the original sin was not, in fact, the disobedience to God. God never said they had to obey everything he said. He didn't! He said go have fun!

The REAL crime was showing him up as a liar. He said they could have everything, and *later* said 'except this', and he said they would die that very day if they ate it, and Eve didn't believe him. And tested him, proving him to have lied and withheld from them. So the true sin was to realize God wasn't as perfect as he would have liked them to believe.

Answer 7

Oh my garden, all peace and beauty! I know that all my heart is yours! I want to stay here, stay here forever father forever I will not leave, but eve I dont know what else to do

Answer 8

They allowed themselves to be tripped. Without free will we would all be a bunch of robots.

Answer 9

Yes, it is God's idea. But He specifically told them not to eat of the tree in the center of the garden. It was satan who told EVE that she surely wouldn't die.

Answer 10

The story makes no sense from beginning to end anyways.