What do you make of the modern push today to downplay the miracles of the Bible like the Red Sea was ?

Question

at low tide and the Israelites walked across or the multiplication of the loaves and fishes never really happened, people just shared?

I think it is abunch of bologny. I mean people were not all that well to do that they carried around that much food with them and even enough to have 12 baskets left over...Who are these people trying to kid? As far as the sharing, just because Jesus was there? Jesus is present at every Mass and we still can't get people to share.

Lotta Lou: heehee the biggest miracle of all huh!!!

Answer 1

It's all part of the discrediting of God's word. The days are dark, and the way of the Antichrist must be prepared.

Answer 2

It is an attempt to hold as much as possible of the story as true, but without the miraculous element. The alternative being to discard the whole thing as something reflecting an ancient pre-scientific worldview and at best unprovable historically. But to try to salvage the story by discarding the miraculous is like keeping the shell and throwing away the nut - the only reason these stories continued to be told was because of the belief that they were accounts of the miraculous.

There has been a fair bit of research done on how rumors spread and develop, and so there might be some usefulness in trying to guess what the historical core to the tradition might have been, but in most instances the historical core of a rumor or legend gets obscured so quickly in transmission that a historian can't do anything with it.

Answer 3

Modern day biblical critics treat scipture like a cheap romance novel, rather than the written Word of God.

In the Catholic Church, the responsibility for this lies with the bishops, who not only permit it to be done, but often agree with the approach, as well.

For their lot, protestants first started the practice of historical-critical bible analysis back in the 19th century, and it's still the standrard for most universities, bible colleges, and seminaries.

For a quick, one page view of what this type of thinking can do, go here, and carefully read both the top and bottom of the page:

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/luke/luke1.htm

Send me an email with your thoughts on it.

Answer 4

I take it to mean that more and more people are realizing that miracles don't happen in real life; therefore, it is more probable that Bible stories are embellished, mistaken, or fictional than that the miracles reported therein really happened.

@Miranda - So, are you saying that knowledge is bad? Would you rather ignorance?

> They are unwilling to think that something like what
> happened in biblical times could happen now.

Actually, you have it backwards. We are unwilling to believe that what cannot happen today could happen in the past.

> They are willing to believe that what they say could be
> true because it requires less faith, less belief, and less
> acceptance of things unseen.

And, what exactly is the virtue in believing things that you can't know--especially when they're impossible? The 9/11 terrorists had faith that they'd enjoy 72 virgins. (Don't say that that wasn't real faith. Faith with that kind of motivation is as real as it gets.)

Your glorification of ignorance is appalling.

Answer 5

Read The Gold of Exodus. The True Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia (Median) The Red sea did part below the peninsula not above it in the sea of reads. There is a land bridge just below the surface. They found the twelve pillars and photographed them in front of Jabal a Lawz, there is an infrared visible path leaving Egypt crossing the Red Sea and leading directly to Jabal a Lawz

Answer 6

I don't see it as a push to downplay anything. I see it as an attempt to either validate the stories of the miracles or prove them false beyond doubt. It is a never ending search for fact, and I for one am encouraged by it.

Answer 7

The miracle is in the fact that Moses was at exactly the right place at exactly the right time to cross the sea and then have the Pharaohs armies destroyed.

Water moving is not a miracle

Answer 8

It's because of Satan. Blame it all on him. I'm serious too. He has turned all that into what some people consider false info. They don't want to believe it. Faith has taken a backseat to "knowledge". As if things like that can't happen within science. How do you think it was done in the first place?? The principles of science were needed to even make them happen.

One of Satan's biggest tools right now is making people think they know better then God, or know more then God does. They are unwilling to think that something like what happened in biblical times could happen now.

We talked about this in church on Sunday. One of the ways Satan gets us to believe in his lies to get us to listen to people who have a lot of knowledge about things. They are willing to believe that what they say could be true because it requires less faith, less belief, and less acceptance of things unseen.

Answer 9

It really is hard to understand how people who seem like they might otherwise be intelligent people,cling to 2000 year old myths that have no relevance in the modern world.

AD

Answer 10

Well then also it is still a miracle that the enemy drowned in the Red Sea at low tide.

Answer 11

It is a sign of the fallen world - these views of the world are things that we as Christians need to battle - not let them ruin our faith and trust in God. We know they happened, and just because they don't happen like this anymore, doesn't mean that they never did.