CA farmers threatening to move to Mexico, no cheap labor, what say you?

Question

Curious to see what u think, I say let the screen door to Mexico hit them in the a*s as they leave, cheap jerks

when the drug cartels find there is competition over land for growing Ganga, see how nice life gets for the cheap farmers.

Wow, I am really impressed with these answers, It's hard to pick the best one, but I'll try, thanks everyone

Answer 1

They first have to qualify to move to Mexico.
Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that
foreign visitors and immigrants are:

• in the country legally;
• have the means to sustain themselves economically;
• not destined to be burdens on society;
• of economic and social benefit to society;
• of good character and have no criminal records; and
• contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

If any want to leave, let them. Someone else will buy their land, farm it without resorting to hiring illegals.

Answer 2

Yes China Labor is cheaper than Mexican but that is not the only reason. You put a TV plant in China and sell the TV in USA for $500, minus transport, import taxes and labor you make $200 profit. But wait, as the Chinese Population becomes richer, now they can afford your TV. Because you already have a plant there you can sell the TV in China for $350 and avoid transport and taxes and make a $250 profit. Companies are risking their intellectual property in China not just because of the Cheap Labor for exports. They want a piece of the Chinese Domestic Market. That is why VW suffered less than Toyota during the recession. Because they were vested in China, not the USA. The Mexican labor being underqualified compared to the Chinese is not a valid argument, Using the same logic that would mean jobs going to Mexico because they are better workers than Americans.

Answer 3

It's a gambit. There are actually laws to prevent certain foods to be imported here. Disease concerns prevents a wholesale lost of farms. Plus development has eaten waway on these farms to start off with. Mexico's lack sanitation, and their strawberries and green onions are known to carry the dangerous E-coli. Pest from certain fruits has kept Avocados from coming in. Certain vegetables can't be exported because the growinfg season is different in Mexico, and to keep the vegetable year round, farmers need to stay in California. California goods get a premium world wide as well. Mexico's laws are also antagonistic towards Americans owning land and starting business over there.

Answer 4

I don't beleive for 1 second there's not enough workers if they were paying a living wage. Not to mention they have always had the ability to obtain temporary visas for any worker they want. They just have to be basically responsible for them, pay fees and all that and they don't want to do that either. Too much grief and expense. Now if you got here illegally for a vegetable picker job but could make 2wice as much mowing lawns....they mow lawns. All their "fruit pickers" are taking factory jobs and construction jobs and all the rest. If they were here legally on one of those work visas....they'd still be picking fruit where they were needed and not here taking our jobs that we need, for cheaper money, driving our wages down in areas where we didn't need them in the first place. BUT NO....NOW everybody wants CHEAP labor......and Americans can't afford to live in this society on what they feel good paying.

I'm with you. Don't let the screen door hit you on the way out. So far all they've managed to do is make people afraid of buying anything fresh anyway. I wonder how much "fresh" fruits and vegetables have rotted in the stores because people are afraid to eat them anymore? 1.59 for a tiny, tiny, head of old iceberg lettuce. Sorry....ain't gonna buy it. It gets where I can afford it or I don't eat it. Not that I can't swing 1.59......it's not worth it. There's other options for the money. Can't really say that lettuce was a bargin. I'm serious.....I doubt it was as big as softball. Get through the sludge and I might have squeezed out 1 small salad. Nope.....10 cents more and I had other healthier choices.....maybe.....spinich vs kidney transplant....hummmmm. Not so sure on that either.

I know, I know....what was saved in cheap labor is eaten up by higher gas. So I still end up spending more. Lets import CHEAP top management. Somewhere it should "trickle down". Or are they going to Mexico...not for cheap labor.....but to aviod law suits for inferior products? Heck I don't know. I mean if e-coli is seen as a normal "Montezumas revenge"....they probably consider this "normal" and don't allow people to sue. Which just keeps putting the US consumer more and more at risk for various food poisonings from countries who have worse standards than we do. Yet no accountability.

What happened to some of the other methods of alternative growing? I know they were opening a hydroponics tomatoe place in Nebraska before I left. There was just one disabled man who did it for a living that a restaurant I worked at bought from. Those tomatoes were beautiful...not quite the taste....but they had a long shelf life. They grew from the roof down so there wasn't a worry about someone or and animal doing their business on them.

Obviously our climate is changing and some of these places might be better off going elsewhere to grow them. But I do agree with one poster.....until growing fresh fruits and vegetables is more valuable than a pot field.....which would you choose? All I know is they better get home and snatch up those new jobs before the South Americans come up and get them.

Answer 5

Let then move. Once they see how great the Mexican land is maybe some of these people will jump back across the border to help them. If the farmers go the need for slave labor will go with them. They should be forced to take the people that work for them too.

Answer 6

Let them go if they think it will help their profit margin. The fact is that Mexico doesn't have the irrigation capabilities that we do and without water the crops fail to grow. The reason that illegals work so cheep is due to the fact that they don't have to pay taxes so they can afford to and also due to the fact that without legal status they are scared to report mistreatment, that would not be the same in Mexico. Farmers here are subsidized by tax dollars but in Mexico I don't think the rich government would give up their spending money.

Answer 7

That's a bluff. Here's why. Congress gives farmers(mostly large ones) hundred's of billions of dollars in subsides. This allows them to export crops like corn, wheat and sugar beets to Mexico at prices their farmers can't compete with. Mexican farm workers then cross the border looking for work in the US. The US taxpayer would be far better off eliminating farm subsides and keeping the Mexicans there to harvest their own crops.

Think about it.

Answer 8

Let them make good with their threat to move to mexico,one thing that they are not taking into consideration
is that there are 49 other states that raise food,How does California think they have the food market locked up here?
I believe that if they left and took their illegal workers with them,the other states would be happy to take up the slack.
They would not be missed,as another poster noted...Don't let the door hit you in the backside on the way out.

Answer 9

It makes total sense to me for the farmers that depend on cheap labor to move their operations to Mexico. It would be better to import the food from Mexico rather than the illegal aliens.

Answer 10

Threatening to move to Mexico. Pretty empty threat.
They might be able to find cheap labor, but they still can't bring the California climate with them to grow their stuff.