Once saved, always saved??

Answer 1

The phrase "once saved always saved" fails to address the fact that those who truly are regenerate will actually bear fruit that coincides with their profession.

This phrase also fails to deal with the persevering aspect of the Christian life. While it may be one thing to manufacture professions, it is another thing to produce fruit for the glory of Christ. True conversion will always produce true fruit. I believe that and stand by that as true biblical orthodoxy. While conversion will not eradicate our fleshy failures and constant battles, it will produce a life that bears fruit. Saying that we are "once saved always saved" is simply misleading when it comes to dealing the perservering aspect of our salvation. Colossians 1:22 - "yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach" (NASB).

We have both used and abused this incredibly misleading term. While I firmly believe that those who are truly in Christ are forever secure in His grace, I also believe that this saving grace will produce godly fruit that will persevere until the end. That is why I gladly use the term "perseverance of the saints". I believe that this term is both solid theologically and beneficial in an applicational sense as well.

Answer 2

Can a Believer "Lose" His Salvation?

Or Stated More Accurately, Can He Forfeit It?

"Has God indeed said...Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away."? (Luke 8:13)



the scripture clearly teaches BOTH the sovereignty of God AND the free will of men. To deny this is irrational, and must be caused by something other than reason based on scriptural precepts.

The scriptural position is that a person who is saved can forfeit that salvation. The bible teaches those at highest risk of forfeiting their salvation are those who are newly saved, and those who continue on in known disobedience, after being born again.

The elect are those whom God chose, whom God foresaw would both trust in His Son AND who would endure or persevere in the faith given them until the end of their physical life, or the return of Jesus.

Those whose hearts are seeking the Lord with all that is in them, should have no concern about "losing" their salvation. Nor should they have any concern about forfeiting their salvation.

Salvation cannot be lost, but it can be forfeited - this is the nature of covenants in the bible. The bible no where guarantee's someone that salvation once received cannot be turned away from or forfeited by the individual that possesses it.

Receiving salvation involves man's will, and not works. Forfeiting salvation involves man's will, and not works. In the same way the Lord did not force His salvation on anyone, He neither forces anyone to remain in the covenant.

Answer 3

Salvation is a process....not an "event".

"Work out your salvation, with fear and trembling" St. Paul.

In 1 Corinthians 15:1–2, Paul says, "Now I would remind you, brethren, in what terms I preached to you the gospel, which you received, in which you stand, by which you are saved, if you hold it fast—unless you believed in vain." So, you could believe, but fail to hold fast to the gospel, and not be saved (cf. 2 Pet. 2:20).

This is why Paul spoke in the book of Romans about the "obedience of faith" (Rom. 1:5, 16:26). It is not enough that one call Jesus Lord, for, as he said, "Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven" (Matt. 7:21; cf. Matt. 10:33, 18:35). If we are disobedient, God will "take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city" (Rev 22:19).

Just because you may choose to no longer hold fast to what was freely given to you does not mean that you were ever capable of earning what was given to you in the first place. The same is true of earthly sonship—it cannot be earned. But if you were adopted, you would be free to run away as a prodigal son and lose your inheritance.

Answer 4

No way, Jesus and the apostles warned us so many times not to fall away. Jesus said, "Abide in me and I in you for apart from me you can do nothing." If we could never be detatched from him then why would he command us to abide in Him?
He also said in Rev to one of the churches that he will blot there names out of the book of life if they didn't repent.
Peter warns us as does Jude that a person that falls away cannot repent again.
I don't understand how people who have read the new testament could believe that. But then again, their comeback is, "well, if he fell away then he was never really a Christian to begin with."

Answer 5

I have to agree with the eloquent post previously submitted that while you can receive Christ as your savior, you need to bear fruit.

The Bible says that Faith without works is dead. Jesus also used the parable about the sheep and the goats and those who claim to heal the sick, raise the dead in his name and God says depart from me you who do iniquity for I never knew you.

The Bible also states that those who know his voice will raise from the dead. You can't know his voice unless you have a relationship with him. How do you have a relationship with Him. By not only accepting the invitation to come to him, but to abide in him.

Answer 6

thats what christains claim!
Others - however decent,kind, compassonate, helpfull, charitable will burn in hell for eternity!
Only diff I see between extreme Muslims and and this kind of belife is that at least the christians do not resort to mindless violance in the name of religion. I stress- NOT IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. There are some nuts who have resorted to indiscriminate bombing due to some Political agenda and not while screaming verses from the Bible.

Answer 7

Baptists as a whole believe in this philosophy, They think there is no such thing as backsliding.They think that if you go back to your old life style you were never saved to begin with!( I was Baptist at one time)
I however do believe that if one does not keep oneself in Gods word and if a person stays lukewarm then Yes, they can go back to their former ways and loose their salvation.But God is a loving and forgiving God and will always say "Welcome back my child!" Ask and you salvation shall be returned to you.

Answer 8

Matthew 24: 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Answer 9

1 John

4 We write this to make our [a] joy complete.

Light and Darkness, Sin and Forgiveness
5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all [b] sin.

8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.

1John 2

1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.



Read all of 1 John
He writes about eternal security.

Answer 10

I won't agree. If I save you from shrunk, then you hang yourself to die. Can I save you forever? If thing are not your own willing, will not be existing.