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I have been told that the God, Christ and the Holy Spirt are one in body, but my question is if that is true, how come Christ (John 3: 16) is the only Begotten Son of God? How can He be His own Father?

2007-06-18 12:01:16 · 29 answers · asked by Dublin Ducky 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are not the same person, they are three seperate individuals that are one in purpose. When the scriptures talk about Them being One, they talk of Them that way as to say that They are all in agreement of action and thought.

2007-06-19 09:02:12 · answer #1 · answered by Storm Duck 3 · 1 1

He isn't/wasn't. Until Jesus was born there was Yahweh, the God of the Jews. However, the Torah which is the Old Testament in the Bible has numerous predictions that a "perfect person" would be born from the "chosen people", which unfortunately for them, happens to be Israel. I say unfortunately because they have suffered ever since. That "stubborn perfectionism" is part of their being. Hitler hated it. So when Jesus was born, the predictions became "flesh" or incarnate. Material meets spiritual resulting in a perfect human being. It was bound to happen sometime. Of the billions of humans on this planet over the years, stands to reason that one "might get it right"? I.E. What we really were meant to be...a part of creation...or better yet, a part of the Creator. Go ahead atheists, rip away. You gamble with your unbelief. So let's set some odds. What if there really is a correct way for a human to live? You don't kill. You don't lie. In short, you follow the proverbial 10 Commandments. What then? Maybe, just maybe the odds say Jesus did everything right during His life. What does that make Him? No question: a perfect human being. And what did He get in return? Rejection and ultimately Crucifixion by imperfect people He Himself asked God, His Father to forgive! When on the cross, He said, "Father forgive them because they don't know what they are doing." Right up until the end, He basically never set Himself up as an equal to God. However as a perfect human being, His reward was a resurrection and a proof that "Truth will make us free". Jesus was not His own Father. It was only after His ascension that He actually became part of the Trinity, not before. As far as the Holy Spirit, or Holy Ghost as some prefer to call it, that was the remnant of Jesus' and God's spirit left behind to carry on, our "clarian call" as it were or perhaps that still, small voice that points out what is right and what is wrong. Once you have heard Jesus' words, you can either believe or not. Call the impact of those words "residual radiation" in scientific terms. A monumental life like that would have to leave something behind to keep us in contact. As Jesus said, "I am with you always, even unto the end of the Earth".

2007-06-18 12:56:40 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

There is but one God: Deu 6:4, Mar 12:29, 1 Tim 2:5

The Father is God: Deu 32:6, Col 1:2, Mat 25:34, Luk 11:2, 1 Cor 15:24, Eph 4:6, 1 The 1:1, Joh 20:17, Rom 1:7

The Son Jesus is God: Joh 1:1-14, 8:58, 20:28, Acts 20:28

The Holy Spirit is God: Joh 14:16-17, 26, 16:7-14, Acts 5:3-4, 13: 2-4, 21:10-11

Shorty, I think that most of your confusion over Christian doctrine of the Trinity is because of Mormon theology that teaches that gods were once human that went to the celestial kingdom and started creating spiritual children and then populated planets and then commanded that they be worshipped as god. Christianity teaches that this is false and that God has always been and that he has never been a man. Christianity teaches that God is uncreated but that man is His creation along with angels and all other creatures. The Christian Gospel teaches that only God is perfect and only He can be the perfect sacrifice for the atonement of mankind. Mormonism teaches that we all may become perfect and actually become gods. Mormonism believes in millions of gods while Christianity believes in only one understood in the Trinity. I pray this helps your understanding. At least you know the different perspective that Christians have from Mormonism.

In Christ
Fr. Joseph

2007-06-18 12:30:46 · answer #3 · answered by cristoiglesia 7 · 1 2

God the Father, Jesus Christ was God manifested into Flesh, When Jesus assended up to Heaven, he said he would send a conforter, This being the Holy Spirit, (God in the Spirit). Jesus being born of Mary was born a mortal man just like us, with bones and blood, He was being led by the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit even told him when to die on the Cross. After his death and resurrection he then had a Holy Body, no blood in his body.Jesus Christ before the Cross(son of God) after the Cross Jesus Christ our saviour and Lord sitting at the right hand of God the Father. Hope this helps.

2007-06-18 12:27:04 · answer #4 · answered by sparkplug 4 · 1 0

Trinity in easy terms:

God is made of an essense. this very essense contains God's mind within His substance. so if a part is taken out from another, this part is still God, as it still has the substance of God and the mind of God; not a clone as it has the same mind, not an offspring as it has the exact same dna.

that being said, when part of God is in a spiritual form, another in a soulish form, and another in a Heavenly form, then you have 3 Persons, but they are all God: same dna, same mind.

the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are different Person that make up God. They play different roles, but no one is lesser in glory than the others. the Father has always been in the most elevated position, as He's in Heaven all the time. Christ has been physically lower than God, as He walked and dwelled with humankind (in the OT as various forms, and as Christ for 33 1/2 years). the Holy Spirit is actually in human beings (Christians), so He's currently physically down here. as for worship, they are all God.

Jesus, as a man, prayed to the father, as that's how humans have to do it. so He was praying to the Father.

2007-06-18 12:16:18 · answer #5 · answered by Hey, Ray 6 · 1 0

Definitely a tough concept to describe without sounding wacky. But the bible tells us what God's big picture plan is so by examining what needed to happen, you can more easily understand why God had to do what he did.
God's purpose is to save his creation, mankind, from the state of sin and condemnation. Complying with the law of the kinsmen redeemer, he had to take on the form of a human in order to pay the death penalty for them/us without breaking the law. So he became Jesus the baby who grew up to be Jesus the crucified and risen Christ. He was still God, but like a man, he could voluntarily die the death that was meant for me and you.
Unlike a man however, He could be raised back to life, and thereby conquer death.

God is Omnipresent, which means he is everyplace at the same time. If you can wrap your head around that, then it should be no trouble to accept that in one of those places he was in the form of Jesus.
Likewise, he places his Holy Spirit inside each believer to empower them to live the christian life. He is still God, and He is everywhere at the same time. The trinity is an awkward way to explain it, but the basic truth is that God is fulfilling several roles at the same time. Any God able to do that has my attention.

2007-06-18 13:07:26 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit are ONE. Three aspects of God.
When "the Word" was born in the flesh of a woman becoming the man Jesus, the Messiah, the Christ, He "emptied Himself" of his divine powers and lived as a man..., was baptized in water by John the baptizer, and when He came up out of the water He was anointed by; or baptized by, the Holy Spirit and lived the remainder of His earthly life as a "spirit-filled" man.
He TAUGHT the gospel truth until He was filled with the Holy Spirit and then He began to do miracles.
He TAUGHT as a matter of fact: "I and the Father are ONE".., "if you have seen me, you have seen the Father". It is a spiritual concept and truth and reality. It is the same as we are taught in the book of Ephesians that we are "HIS BODY, of his flesh and of his bones". He is the head and we are his body!!
Sorry you having such an issue with it. Maybe if you get born-again and spirit filled, you will get a better understanding.
Not a difficult issue.

2007-06-18 12:12:49 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It's complicated but it's like a flower; all petals are separate from each other yet they still connect to the same flower.. God is the stem and God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are 3 different petals.

2007-06-18 12:08:07 · answer #8 · answered by irchik 2 · 2 0

Imagine someone trying to explain what God is like, what parts is God made of, try to make a sentence that talks about how God acts in the world... and have this done by a human, with human words, one that has never seen God and that will only "understand" God when becoming one with him.

The Trinity is a partial attempt to show how God has shown himself to us... but God has no sons, no father, no mood, no temper, no love, no hate as we humans do.

God is not a big-brother in the sky... he is not like us, to try to see him like a human being, including Jesus is always bound for deception.

2007-06-18 12:23:10 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You speak of a Spiritual entity not limited by physical characteristics. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost is like saying, me, myself, and I. They are one in the same with different Spiritual characteristics.

2007-06-18 12:10:49 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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