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Everyone wants to believe this doctrine, yet no one can show me the word trinity in the Bible. Of course there are other things that prove my point, but this one alone proves to me that there is no such thing. Theres God (Jehovah), theres Jesus, and theres God's active force, the Holy Spirit. 3=3, 2=2, 1=1, never has 3=1. (if so, my math teachers taught me wrong!!!!)

2007-06-18 08:47:08 · 24 answers · asked by N-TYC-N 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

STILL NO ANSWER!!!!! WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY TRINITY??? (i'll answer-it doesnt!!!!) 3=3!! That doesnt change!! Why are you multiplying?!! 1=1, 2=2, 3=3. its so clear!!!!!

2007-06-18 09:22:38 · update #1

Rich,
If God is a mystery which so many people seem to believe then there would be no need for the scripture at 1 Timothy 2:4. He is no mystery, I know what He wants all of us to know.

2007-06-18 13:34:24 · update #2

24 answers

I have been trying to get out of people this very same question of why the trinity is not in the scriptures. I know it is not in there because Jehovah God, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit are all three different things. Many say that the holy spirit is a person when all it is is God's active force. Nevertheless, people will argue you and I down that it is in there. However, when you ask them where, they seem to have a memory lapse.

It just proves that Satan has truly blinded the minds of the unbelievers (2 Corinthians 4:4) and will have them believe anything, although it is not a Bible teaching.

2007-06-18 09:16:30 · answer #1 · answered by the_answer 5 · 5 1

There are many words that describe biblical teaching that are not used in Scripture. These are sometimes called theological constructs. The Bible very clearly teaches the deity of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, yet it also clearly teaches that there is only one God. Hence, this one God is multipersonal. What term we use to describe Scripture's teaching is irrelevant. We could call it trifabulation or trideificationism. The term does not matter. The teaching of the Bible does. The early Church Fathers sought for a word to describe this teaching and centuries before the Nicene creed they coined the term "Trinity" to describe the acknowledged biblical teaching about God. For example, Tertullian wrote a 2nd century text about the Trinity and Novation wrote a third century book titled "The Trinity." The word "Trinity" is used 106 times in the works of Ante-Nicene Fathers. The term did not precede the doctrine, it was coined to describe the doctrine which has always been held within biblical, historic orthodoxy. Regarding the math, 1+1+1 does not represent trinitarianism as much as it does tritheism. Trinitarianism can be pictured mathematically as 1x1x1=1.

2007-06-18 09:07:25 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

The Trinity came about from a group of men who were called together by Constantine (he wasn't even a Christian, by the way) in the 3rd century. Most people at that time were arguing about the concept of God- who and what God was. He told them that they needed to come up with a uniform idea, so the idea of the trinity was brought about.

You will have people quote the scripture in John (John 10:30) or in John (John 1:1) to prove that the trinity is a biblical concept, but Christ didn't teach it. He never said that He and God were the same person. In fact, there are many times when He says the contrary.

Here are few scriptures against it, just to show my alter ego side of things ;) John 14:28; Acts 7:56; John 17:11,20-23; John 17:3; Romans 15:6; 1 Timothy 2:5 and 1 Timothy 5:21.

That should get you started. I'm also posting a link to a page that discusses what I believe about this. Feel free to browse it!!

2007-06-18 09:08:46 · answer #3 · answered by odd duck 6 · 6 4

Thats because the Trinity is a false doctrine.


agu o : They say OUR because Jesus was already created and was in the heavens with his father but they are not the same people.

redtoenails22: Notice how Matthew 28:19 says Go therefore and make deciples of people of all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father AND the Son AND the holyspirit. There was the word AND in between them which basically means they are not the same person. If not it would've said in the name if the FATHER,SON AND HOLYSPIRIT. Not only that but Matthew 24:36 says only the Father knows the Hour and day of the end.If the fahter son and holy spirit were the same person wouldn't they both know?

2007-06-18 09:32:03 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 8 1

Jehovah is Almighty God and Jesus is his Son, himself a godlike one. The following is a copied list of questions which seem to frustrate trinitarians:

1. If Jesus was God then why is he called the “firstborn” of all creations? Please read Colossians 1:15 and Revelation 3:14.
2. If Jesus was God then why did he say that he did not come of his “own initiative” but was sent? Who sent him? John 8:42 and 1 John 4:9
3. If Jesus was God then why did Jesus not know the “day and the house” of the Great Tribulation but God did? Matthew 24:36
4. Who did Jesus speak to in prayer if he was God? Did he speak to himself when he asked help and strength from God?
5. Jesus “appeared before the person of God for us”? How did he do that if he was God? Hebrews 9:24
6. Why did Jesus say “the Father is Greater than I am”? John 14:28, Philippians 2:5,6
7. Who spoke to Jesus at the time of his baptism saying “this is my son”? Matthew 3:17
8. How could he be exalted to a superior position if he was God? Can you exalt the one who is already the highest? Philippians 2:9,10 (Note: It says “God exalted him to a higher position”. In proper English the word higher and highest is different. This means that God is the highest; Jesus is in the higher position. God has the authority to exalt him to a higher position. That means Jehovah, the father is higher than Jesus)
9. If Jesus was God how can Jesus be the “mediator between God and man?” Jesus is called the MEDIATOR in 1 Timothy 2:5
10. If Jesus was God why did the Apostle Paul say “the head of the Christ is God?” 1 Corinthians 11:30
11. Is Jesus was God then why did Jesus “hand over the Kingdom to his God” and “subject himself to God”? 1 Corinthians 15: 24,28
12. If Jesus was God then who does he refer to as “my God and your God”? John 20:17
13. How does he sit at God’s right hand? Psalms 110:1, Hebrew 10:12, 13
14. If Jesus was God why does John say “no man has seen God at any time?” John saw Jesus. John 1:18
15. Why did not people die when they saw Jesus? Exodus 20:18-19, Exodus 30:20
16. How were Jesus dead and God alive at the same time if they are one? Acts 2:24
17. Why did Jesus need someone to save him? Hebrews 5:7
18. If Jesus was God the one who is referred to prophetically at Proverbs 8:22-31?
19. If Jesus was God then did Jesus say “that all authority has been GIVEN to me in heaven and on earth”? Who gave that authority? Matthew 28:18, Daniel 7:13,14
20. Why did Jesus have godly fear if he was the God? Hebrews 5:7
21. How could he learn obedience and be made perfect? Whom did he obey if he was God? Hebrews 5:8-9
22. Why would an angel be able to strengthen him or the angels minister to him? Does God need to be strengthened and ministered by angels? Luke 22:43, Matthew 4:11
23. Why would Satan try to tempt him if he KNEW that he was GOD? Matthew 4:1-11
24. Jesus when sent to earth was made to “be Lower” than the angels Hebrews 2:7 says. How could any part of a God Head ever be lower than the angels?
25. Then if Jesus was the same as God, who was he being tempted to rebel against? Matthew 4:1
26. Near the end of his earthly life, Jesus cried out “My God, my God why have you forsaken me?” Matthew 27:46 Can God desert or forsake himself?
27. Hebrews 5:8 says that Jesus learned obedience! To whom would he obey if he was God? And does God need to LEARN anything?

2007-06-19 05:52:09 · answer #5 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 2 0

How is it which you attack the Bible with the aid of demonstrating problems with what the Catholic Church says particularly of what the Bible says? How is it which you leap to the ridiculous end that the Catholic Church speaks for all Christians? How is it which you will overlook approximately countless hundred years of worldwide background like that? How is it which you will assume any Christians to take any such bigoted piece of ranting heavily? The Bible is the actual, inerrant be attentive to God. A Catholic priest as quickly as pointed out ninety 5 issues that the Catholic Church had incorrect in its teachings in accordance to the Bible. His call replaced into Martin Luther. You did not even come on the verge of fall down of as many, and you blamed all of Christianity for the training of Catholics. removing the passages that offend you plenty would not replace what the Bible itself teaches us. And, so, you leap to the top that the Bible, which has in no way been shown incorrect is in actuality errant (with out any helping counsel) with the aid of fact a internet site shows that the Catholic Church would not have faith the Bible (which surprises in simple terms approximately no Christians in any respect). good judgment would not seem to be your reliable healthful. actuality would not seem to be so the two. are you able to furnish a quotation that shows that "the resurrection verses in right this moment's Gospels of Mark are universally referred to as forgeries"? i don't think of you will discover such an authoritative source. you're able to discover sources that time out that particular verses do not exist specially manuscripts. yet, the absence of particular verses from the oldest manuscripts, case in point, would be with the aid of loss and destruction particularly than forgery. My first intense college background e book had pages lacking, even though it replaced into no forgery. Forgery is an extremely reliable fee not certainly shown.

2016-11-25 21:45:57 · answer #6 · answered by golub 4 · 0 0

Every time the nation of Israel worshiped a trinity, Jehovah allowed a outside country to steam roll over his chosen people.

Jehovah made it clear that he is one not three.

DEUTERONOMY 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God ['eloheynu], the LORD is one!

I CORINTHIANS 8:4 . . . We know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one. For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. (NKJV)

2007-06-19 03:07:45 · answer #7 · answered by keiichi 6 · 4 0

It is totally man made!

This doctrine is considered by many as the cornerstone of Christianity, but where did this doctrine come from? The historical record is overwhelming that the church of the first three centuries did not worship God as a coequal, coeternal, consubstantial, one-substance three in one mysterious godhead. The early church worshipped one God and believed in a subordinate Son. The trinity originated with Babylon, and was passed on to most of the world's religions. This polytheistic (believing in more than one god) trinitarianism was intertwined with Greek religion and philosophy and slowly worked its way into Christian thought and creeds some 300 years after Christ.

2007-06-18 08:55:27 · answer #8 · answered by Gorgeoustxwoman2013 7 · 8 3

I assume with your emphasis on "Jehovah" you may well be a Jehovah's Witness (especially since you deny the Spirit's personhood, which is evidenced in scripture in Acts 13:2 "2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.")

The Trinity is a logical construct of the evidence in the Bible. The Bible clearly teaches that God the Father is God, that God the Son is God, and that God the Holy Spirit is God. Each evidencing the power of an holiness of God. So, we have 3 potential gods here. But, scripture also says that there is but one God. So, we have a conundrum, there seems to be 3 Gods and yet 1 God.

The reality, which is believed by the historic Christian church for centuries is that God is an eternally uncreated being who has chosen to reveal Himself in His 3 persons, the Father, the Son and the Spirit. Each personalities are coequal and coeternal, and each is fully the one and only true God.

It is an issue of categories, with only one "who", but 3 "whats" or to make it more simple, 3 eternal personalities who coexist as the one and only being that is God. How does this work? Who knows, we are finite sinful creatures and cannot comprehend an eternal and holy being.

So, to simplify the definition, the Trinity teaches, as does the Bible that there is but one holy and perfect God, eternally revealed in 3 persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Or, since you like mathematical logisms ... 1 * 1 * 1 = 1

Ath

2007-06-18 09:06:52 · answer #9 · answered by athanasius was right 5 · 1 7

because Jehovah God is the Father, Jesus Christ is the son and the Holy Spirit is Jehovah's active Force and they are not the same. when Jesus was on earth he prayed to his Father in the heaven and said he cannot do anything without the father. yes Jesus said you seen me you seen the Father, what he was saying was that he was with Jehovah for billions of years before he came to earth. even the 12 knew that he was the son not God Almighty. remember when Jesus was baptized, Jehovah came down like a dove and said this is my son the beloved. no one has ever seen Jehovah but they seen Jesus Christ, not even Moses seen Jehovah and lived

2007-06-18 08:55:56 · answer #10 · answered by lover of Jehovah and Jesus 7 · 5 3

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