How do you feel about the "once saved, always saved" theory?

Question

As for me, I don't agree with it at all. What would be the point? I mean, if that were the case, then everybody could truly repent and then do whatever they wanted. Atheists/agnostics/other religions could say well I believe and then do what they want. If you asked them, do you still believe, they could easily still say yes.

What would be the point of God asking for obedience? He gave us His Word to obey and it didn't say "live how you want to live." Jesus wasn't out doing what He wanted, living the way He wanted to live. He was doing the will of His Father as I think we should do.

Now, please don't get offended if you are a "once saved, always saved" person. This is my opinion and I want to hear other people's opinions.

soccermonkey has made an excellent point. She stressed how it should be. I understand that we sin practically every day. Job/David and some other people in the Bible addressed that we do sin. It's when we keep doing what we're doing that it is no longer true repentance and where I begin my "once saved, always saved" argument.

I definitely understand where people are coming from when they say that the Bible says no one can take God's children away from Him. I do not dispute Scripture whatsoever. My argument regarding "once saved, always saved" comes in when people begin taking advantage of grace and think they can sin and still be saved. Paul said, shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid.

That's what I'm saying. I thank you all for both sides of the argument.

Answer 1

I gave you a star! This is a very good question!!! And I feel, that once we are truly saved, that we can never be lost from it... But some people just aren't truly repenting or being saved, and so they aren't actually saved, so they can't lose it... But I know that all of us sin, even the most Christiany Christian out there sins EVERY DAY! So, to answer your question, I believe that once we are TRULY SAVED AND TRULY REPENT AND ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS, then we can never be taken of that... But we still should follow and try 2 obey him! God Bless!

Answer 2

I understand your point, but Scripture states that once your name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life, your name can never be blotted out. Now, true repentence means to turn away from your sin, so when you ask Jesus to become your Lord and Saviour, you are turning from your lifestyle of sin. The problem is, being a Christian does not take away the temptation in your life, on the contrary, it makes it harder because Satan does not want you to grow in your relationship with Christ. The problem is that churches today want to get people saved, but don't want to take the time to disciple them, so some go back to the lifestyle that they are used to. Romans 6 points out that living in sin is not acceptable - makes for cheap grace. But, we have to be careful, judging others based on their behavior. Only God knows those who have truly repented. But, it doesn't change that fact that once you truly become a Christian, you are always a Christian.

Answer 3

The "once saved always saved" theory is false and is leading many people on the path of eternal damnation. Salvation is an on going process, not a one time thing. Salvation must be worked on daily. Those who endure til the end will be saved.

"As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."

Answer 4

in some ways i agree however look @ it lyk this

The Bible clearly states that we cannot enter heaven by good works alone. In other words it is our beleif in Jesus that will usher us into the pearly gates. To truly believe in Jesus we must be reborn in the sense that we will live in the world not OF the world. If you are living in sin then how can you be living in Jesus. Sinning is one thing but LIVING in sin is another.

Many people justify being sinful to make them happy they say: God wants me to be happy, therefore i may do w/e i want to achieve that [Wrong] God's sole purpose is not for us just to be happy, But through obedience we gain happiness because our actions determine the level of blessing we will receive on this earth, now God doesnt reward evil, thus sin causes pain/lack of blessing. But God does reward obedience/which increases blessing, thus increasing happiness

Answer 5

I firmy believe once saced always saved. the Bible says we obtain eternal life at salvation. If we could lose it, then it would have only been temporary life- not eternal life.

Being saved doesn't give you a blank check for sin. A Christian cannot be truly happy living in disobedience. The Spirit would be gnawing on our hearts if we were living in constant deliberate sin.

Plus we love God because of what He has done for us. This love makes us want to please God. Also, someday we will stand before Christ and He will ask us what we have done with our lives. We don't want to be ashamed by having to say we wasted what He gave us. Even though we would be forgiven, we would still feel sorry and ashamed.

Also, when we sin we give up blessings that God would like to give us.

Answer 6

The Bible says in Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV) that "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." It is just like when someone gives you a gift. You can't give back the gift to the person that gave it to you. God operates in the same manner. Once you are saved you are always saved. The Bible says in Romans 8:38-39 (KJV) that "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." The Bible also says in Ephesians 4:30 (KJV) that "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."

Answer 7

Hitler was never saved, a person who is regenerated by the Holy Spirit would not have committed such atrocities, also Google Hitlers antichristian quotes, you can see what he really thought about Christians

Answer 8

It is a fact. When you are truly saved, you become an adopted child of God, If you sin, you can be forgiven, and He will chastise His children, when they sin. A man doesn't disown his child, just because he misbehaves, but he sees the need, he will chastise the child, as he sees fit, but if the child comes and says he is sorry, and ask for forgiveness, then the man forgives, not boot him out of the house. My God is a loving God.

Answer 9

You're looking at man as being capable of choosing his own salvation and gaining Heaven for himself, and if this is truly the case, then I can't fault you for the logic that must follow. If you can opt in, then you can opt out. But in return, you get a God that must beg, hope, wish, plead with you to keep your own salvation, and He loses his sovereignty that way -- or at least it has to be restructured to fit the theology.

"Once saved, always saved" can only be true if God is completely sovereign, where the God the Father calls his own unto himself from before the foundations of the world; God the Son paid for the sins of a guilty mankind that does not merit heaven; and God the Holy Spirit works in our hearts to give us a new life in Him. Therefore, with Christians -- "little Christs" -- working out their own salvation in fear and trembling, the Holy Spirit also has a "lock" on our hearts and lives.

If salvation has a starting point with you, then you have your "date of delivery" with your relationship, but you must depend upon yourself rather than God to keep you going. If salvation has a starting point with God, then your "date of delivery" was foreknown and predestined, and you were called and saved by grace, and you are sanctified by His hand, not your own. The "game over" dividing line of death is erased, and you enjoy eternal life with the one that saw you and loved you way, way, way back. That's love, insidious_22, from eternity to eternity. A great big, huge amount of love.

Answer 10

The false doctrine of "Once Saved, Always Saved" seems to have blossomed with Fundamentalist Christians although it's origins date back to 16th century Calvinism. The perfect example of how this doctrine is false is Judas Iscariot. He believed in Jesus Christ, walked with Him, was one of the Twelve and was given the same powers from Him as the others. Yet what Christian believes that Judas Iscariot went to Heaven? According to this doctrine, I would say Fundamentalist Christians would have to believe Judas is in Heaven as he more than met the requirements of salvation according to this doctrine.