More scientific data to debunk climate change...does it never end???

Question

let's hope not, because as soon as we let people like algore, the weather channel and the sierra society get their way, it will be too late...fight this fraud with all your might!!! CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE BIGGEST FRAUD PERPORTRATED ON HUMANITY EVER. please read this story.. http://www.madison.com/tct/mad/topstories/197613

Answer 1

I called this 2 years ago with a co-worker of mine and now he is starting to believe its a fraud.

Answer 2

Actually, this is the exact same article you posted earlier. And I suppose my response is the same: I would refute the arguments given on the site but, well, there aren't any. All we have is the opinion of Dr. Reid Bryson. An opinion which a quick glance at a temperature reconstruction will invalidate.

The 'ice age' referred to in the article was most probably the younger Dryas. And as you can clearly see in the below graph, we 'came out' of the YD nearly ten thousand years ago, which means the current warming isn't related.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/greenland.18kyr.gif

Why don't you try finding something interesting or compelling for us? Because so far you've done the most miserable job of debunking global warming ever.

Your statement that 'climate change is the biggest fraud perportrated (sic) ever' is kind of silly as well. Since you seem perfectly willing to accept that climate changes so long as no one's saying humans caused it to.

Edit: Philip, if you would care to show me where exactly my reasoning went wrong in this post I'd be glad to. If you have no objections to anything I said then why did you still agree with the asker?

Answer 3

Few if anyone thinks that warming is not occuring at all. The issue is how much mankind has played a role in this warming. Here are some absolute facts for you to chew on: 1)For over 95% of Earth's history, there has been no icecap at either pole. 2)During the previous interglacial warming period, known as the Eemian period, both polar ice caps completely melted, with sea levels of 6-8 meters higher than today. This was only ~125,000 years ago. 3)The Earth is currently in its second coldest phase of its entire history, with frequent longlasting ice ages broken by brief interglacial warming periods. We are in one of those warming periods right now, but there is obviously more warming to come before the next ice age sets in. 4) Sea level has been rising at a rate of ~one foot per century for at least the last 30-50 centuries. Coastal settlements of the Ancient Greeks and Romans are now under 20-30 feet of water. Even Jamestown, Virginia, settled in 1607, is now ~50% under sea level now. 5)The most agriculturally productive province of the Roman empire was Tunisia, Africa. Climate bands and rain patterns have since shifted northward during the last 2,000 years, making Tunisia a veritable desert now. Somehow, the Tunisians have managed to survive anyway.

Answer 4

An 87 year old "professor emeritus" who probably hasn't done any serious research in many years.

Why would any intelligent person take his off the cuff opinion over the vast majority of the world's scientists, backed by a huge peer reviewed database?

"There's a better scientific consensus on this [climate change] than on any issue I know... Global warming is almost a no-brainer at this point,You really can't find intelligent, quantitative arguments to make it go away."

Dr. Jerry Mahlman, NOAA

Good websites for more info:

http://profend.com/global-warming/
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/
http://www.realclimate.org
"climate science from climate scientists"

Answer 5

Johnnie B,
CO2 is not heavy. The reason that it appears heavy to you is because the decompression of any gas cools down. For example, liquid nitrogen is very very cold when it decompresses in the open air. Heat rises and cool falls. Quit spreading your unscientific rumors. It makes dumb people believe you. How do you think anything can grow on tall mountains and from the sides of steep cliffs?

federalistcapers,
Why doesn't that local scientist offer any evidence to his assertions? It looks like pure speculation to me.

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I think global warming is caused by deforestation, which increases solar radiant heat on the Earth's surface. Increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere is just a symptom, not the cause. And just because many scientists are wrong about one thing, doesn't necessarily mean that they are wrong about everything. Humans ARE a large part of what's causing today's global warming.

Answer 6

Actually u are right . The CO2 thing u don't need a scientist to know that CO2 is very heavy and is used to smother a fire . If the CO2 was as high as the environmentalist want u to believe there would people dieing . GOD put plants here to recycle our atmosphere . The plants take in the CO2 and give us back the O2 and keeps the C to make its food. I am 77 and the dust bowl days was pretty bad . huge sand storm and some times the rain would fall making mud balls. It was not very pretty.

Answer 7

The melting of glaciers and polar ice is living proof of climate change. Anyone who waits for more "evidence" that it is not happening is blind to reality.

Answer 8

What do you mean "more scientific data"? This is the same article you linked before, and it STILL doesn't contain any scientific data.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlrnaEdjV1jI2UOQo.U.FIjty6IX?qid=20070618071052AA8Nbox&show=7#profile-info-AA11123257

Is this seriously the best you can do? Seriously? At this point you're just making me more convinced that humans are the primary cause of global warming. Your questions should read

"Scientific data to debunk climate change...does it ever begin???"

Answer 9

Did you even read the whole article? You have one retired scientist who doesn't believe in global warming and one current researcher who believes very strongly in it.

Answer 10

It will not end. All we have to do is lift the rugs in these so called scientists labs, and we will find a plethora of data that disproves Global warming. it was all swept under there long ago.