It's strange don't you think that the ones that put down Mary's role in Salvation history are the ones?

Question

that shout the accolades of woman preachers the most? Joyce Meyer etc.

Answer 1

Joyce Meyer's hair: Like Marge Simpson but only 6 inches high and not blue.

Answer 2

OK, I am confused.
Mary's role in salvation...umm...she was the mother of Jesus Christ! That would seem to be a rather HUGE contrubution, I would think!
Does she have some other role I don't know about? I mean, raising the Son of God is not enough to earn her eternal respect?
That said, you do know that Mary cannot offer you salvation. I mean, she was one heck of a brave lady, but she is dead now. She is in heaven with her Son, but she doesn't have any influence whatsoever over who gets "saved" and who doesn't. That is STRICTLY between each human being and God, isn't it?
I'm not sure what Joyce Meyer has to do with Mary, either. I mean, I don't know much about Ms. Meyer, but, from what little I have seen, she seems to be doing a MUCH better job on the television than some of the men...like Peter Popov, for instance, or Benny Hinn, or Aurther Murray, to name a few. Better a woman who is at least trying to feed the sheep then a man who is out to fleece them, I think.

Answer 3

Pastor Billy says: the thing about Joyce Meyers is... she steals much of her discussion material from Catholic saints and doesn't acknowledge it to her audience.

Yes you make another great point non-Catholics have their own hall of fame and it is usually made up of modern-day preachers. I heard Marcus Brodi once say he even had in his Presbyterian church a picture gallery of Luther, Calvin, Knox, Zwingli all the while attacking Catholics for pictures of saints.

addendum: mamamia I can't believe what you write. You claimed in another question your mother was Catholic and yet you still don't know Catholics don't give godly worship to Mary. That Baptist sect really did a number on you

Answer 4

Where in the Bible does it say anything about Mary and Salvation?

Jesus, himself, didn't even put her on a 'higher' level than any other. Why do Catholics think they have too?

Luke 8: 20-21

20And it was reported to Him, "Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, wishing to see You."

21But He answered and said to them, "My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it."

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Answer 5

And what was Mary's role in salvation again? I must've missed that somewhow in my 20+ years of reading and studying the bible.


And who is Joyce Meyer?

Answer 6

Suzanne:

Immaculate Conception:
"He was the ark formed of incorruptible wood. For by this is signified that His tabernacle was exempt from putridity and corruption." Hippolytus, Orations Inillud, Dominus pascit me (ante A.D. 235).
"This Virgin Mother of the Only-begotten of God, is called Mary, worthy of God, immaculate of the immaculate, one of the one." Origen, Homily 1(A.D. 244).

Mary is the New Eve and Most Blessed Among Women:
"And I think it in harmony with reason that Jesus was the first-fruit among men of the purity which consists in chastity, and Mary among women; for it were not pious to ascribe to any other than to her the first-fruit of virginity." Origen, Commentary on Matthew, 10:17 (A.D. 244).

Mary is our Powerful Intercessor:
"For as Eve was seduced by the word of an angel to flee from God, having rebelled against His Word, so Mary by the word of an angel received the glad tidings that she would bear God by obeying his Word. The former was seduced to disobey God, but the latter was persuaded to obey God, so that the Virgin Mary might become the advocate of the virgin Eve. As the human race was subjected to death through [the act of] a virgin, so it was saved by a virgin." Irenaeus, Against Heresies, V:19,1 (A.D. 180).

"Under your mercy we take refuge, O Mother of God. Do not reject our supplications in necessity, but deliver us from danger,[O you] alone pure and alone blessed." Sub Tuum Praesidium, From Rylands Papyrus, Egypt (3rd century).

Answer 7

I am against women preachers because of what the Bible says, but I also think that the Catholics teach something that isn't in the Bible concerning Mary. She was never meant to be worshipped, prayed to or otherwise. She was the Savior's mother, nothing more.

Answer 8

I don't think anyone down plays her role, it's important, I just don't think people believe she should be prayed to.

I thinks she's an awesome and important woman chosen by God, but the issue isn't with her specifically but against the idea of praying to saints.

BD

Answer 9

It's easily proven that Mariology is not a concept taught by tradition through the Apostles: read the writings of the very early Church and you'll see that she was not venerated at all. She was respected and cared for, but never venerated. No mention of any special powers or her immaculate conception is made until after Constantine.

I'm sure you'll give me thumbs down, but it's the plain truth. Jesus never meant His earthly mother to receive any preferential treatment, not did He give her a special place in Heaven.

Answer 10

i think mother of jesus is very special/whos joyce meyer?l