i am not trying to judge im honestly curios as to what u would think of this person. if u had a member of the church who had 2 children out of wedlock and was on weflare. she was preaching abstinence to the youth group during a class her and another church member gave. anyway how woudl u feel if the church flew out a 25 year old aspiring preacher/ missoinary from hawaii and he was staying with the preachers wife. a virgin missionary boy in essence. what would you think if within 9 months time, the missonary boy had dropped out of missoanry school was spending 6 out of 7 nights at the welfare mothers house, and now she is pregnant with #3. also she is getting full welfare and not report his income ( he dropped out of missoinary school to wrok in the mines making $15 hour ) so if you attended her church. what would u do? woudl u confront the new couple and pray for them or what would u think in general?
2007-06-17 19:45:53 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
forgot to metion the #3 is HIS baby and he dropped out of PREACHER college or whatever you call it ( Not missoinary schoo sorry )
2007-06-17 19:46:46 · update #1
Sounds like you are in the wrong church.
2007-06-17 19:49:12 · answer #1 · answered by Maria M 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Okay, this is a complex question, to say the least. Someone that has children out of wedlock would be one of the first people that might teach other people not to have sex. She has experience of how hard it is to raise kids on her own. She learned her lesson. The same happens all the time when ex drug addicts teach youth to never pick up a habit like that. They are the ones that know more than anyone else the dangers of that addiction. The rest of this sounds much like gossip. We are told in scripture not to gossip. Unless you have clear evidence that the pastor to be was having sex with the woman and the baby she is pregnant with is his child, then you don't have any evidence to get in the middle of the thing and judge their actions. I wouldn't confront anyone. I let people live their lives. If someone is doing something wrong, I pray that God will deal with them. It isn't my business.
2007-06-18 07:49:09 · answer #2 · answered by One Odd Duck 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
You're right to be upset about those things. This is not "judging" people , if people are members of the same church, they must realzie that that church exists to glorify God and not to make visitors to the church happy.
If I were you I would leave the church and go to another one because from what you are describing this church is run by sinful individuals who do not take the Bible seriously.
2007-06-17 20:08:08 · answer #3 · answered by Monkey Chunks 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You will know the true church by it's fruits (actions). But keep in mind that we are only humans, subject to sin. All stumble. So do not judge, especially single mothers. That is for God to see to. Not us. If you are truly disturbed by this, then seek out a church that abides by the letter of God's law. But do not seek perfection, you will not find it.
2007-06-17 19:53:54 · answer #4 · answered by Starjumper the R&S Cow 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They are Christians, they aren't perfect. They obviously fell out of the will of God it sounds like....I believe it would be a pastors job to confront them and find out how he can help them. The fact that she is on welfare or had children out of wedlock is irrelevant to me...But they are obviously going against Gods word if they are having premarital sex...They need people praying for them. Not judging them. Satan attacks Christians, and he twists our thoughts, that's why we have to guard our hearts and minds.
2007-06-17 20:18:09 · answer #5 · answered by Nicole B 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The Bible says to be doers and not hearers only.
It is important to lead by example----it is also important to forgive and leave judgement in the hands of the Lord.
I would pray for them, but I would fellowship elsewhere.
2007-06-17 19:55:59 · answer #6 · answered by Lover of God 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
WOW! I think this church needs a lot of prayer. Yes, we aren't perfect. If you are a Christian and they claim to be Christians you should go to them in love and show them verses that help them see that they are not following God's will for their lives. You can also pray with them.
First examine yourself and your own sin.
Luke 6:42
"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.
Then pray to God for the correct words to say. Then go to them in love to let them know you do not approve because of what God's word teaches. Do it in love not in judgement.
Luke 17:3
So watch yourselves. "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.
Galatians 6:1
Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted.
If they are not claiming to be believers then you can just pray for them.
Hope this helps! I will be praying you and your church.
2007-06-20 20:03:01 · answer #7 · answered by Stinky Feet 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If they attended my church they would be confronted by the Church Elders, and if they did not repent and rectify this situation, they would be excommunicated.
They would still be welcome to attend church, but they would not be welcome to partake in communion (until such time as they have shown repentance, and turned from their public sin).
There is no such thing as carnal Christians. People that do not turn from sin, but rather embrace it, have no right to call themselves followers of Christ.
2007-06-17 20:14:44 · answer #8 · answered by Calvin 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
i dont see how addressings the couple would change what happened. ultimently, it is in God's hands and He will deal with this couple. i would say to just pray about it and let God do His thing. not worry or stress about it at all. give it all to the Lord and he will deal with it.
blessings upon you
2007-06-17 20:05:27 · answer #9 · answered by Kenneth H 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
People aren't perfect that is for sure. Good thing for Jesus, he said for those who loved much he forgave much. We all screw up I know that for a fact and when we think we don't that is when I know we are in trouble. Sex is very tempting are you a virgin?
2007-06-17 19:53:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋