Why are some Jehovahs witness so mean and say i lied?

Question

Im young but old enough to no that it not my fault that i was abused. Some members of the truth said i was lying about what happened to me. The elder didnt believe me either. Im really sad now what if my mom don't beleive me to? Why are they being so mean to me it thought i could trust them? The bother can just hurt me and no one will listen or care?

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Answer 1

Linedancer, Keiichi, Stary Stary Night and Agape (all JW's) have given good advice, Amber.

FIRST, tell your parents.

IF they don't believe you, or refuse to take this up with the Elders to protect you and disfellowship the brother who abused you, THEN go to the Police.

I also think you should see your doctor who will be able to help you cope with the trauma.

You are not alone - lots of Christians are upholding you in prayer.

Answer 2

No. Jehovah did not lie to the Witnesses for 81 years. This is because, from all appearances, he has had nothing to do with that particular religious movement. This matter of flip-flopping on doctrinal matters has been a source of consternation to Watchtower adherents for decades. They explain it away by quoting Proverbs 4:18 regarding the path of the righteous one being like a light that gets brighter. Setting aside what I see as a strained interpretation of the scripture (i.e., the context shows that it plainly applies to the benefits of living a virtuous life and has nothing to do with changing doctrines), the history of the Watchtower organization does not show a progressive "light getting brighter." Rather, it shows a group of men flailing around trying to interpret the Bible--at times going back to abandoned teachings. This is not "the light getting brighter." The problem with cases like this (where the WT had it "correct" for a time, then taught "incorrect" doctrine, then later went back to the old "correct" doctrine) is that these cases destroy the whole "light getting brighter" theory. Instead of a light getting brighter, it's more like a strobe light. It also raises the question: who was behind the change from the "correct" teaching to the "incorrect" teaching? It can't be God, for He cannot lie. Was it Satan? That would open up a can of worms. I propose a third choice--it was merely human error. As much as the JWs try to deny it, their Governing Body is merely a group of men with no special appointment by God. In the past, God always made it PERFECTLY clear whom he had appointed. Remember Moses? God gave him the power to perform several miracles so that the Israelites would believe that he was sent by God. Remember Jesus? Again, he was given the authority to do powerful works. What about prophets in ancient times? Well, God may not have given them all the ability to perform miracles, but he made sure that what they said came true. In fact, that was the basis for the test of a true prophet--if his words came true, he was a true prophet, but if his words did not come true, he was a false prophet. So, the leaders of the Watchtower organization have their followers convinced that they are God's "channel" and that they have some kind of exclusive channel to God. However, they have provided no proof, and the fruits of this alleged relationship are no better or worse than any other group of men. Thus, it boils down to trust--believing these men because the say so. Last I checked, Christians were warned against such credulity (1 John 4:1).

Answer 3

You need to talk to your mother. She should be by your side. You should not only tell your mother but you should tell the police. This "so" called brother should not only be dis-fellowshiped but he should be put in jail. I am so sorry that this happened to you. Please don't let any more time go by before talking to your mother.

Its a sad world that people have to say that some one is lying just because they miss spelled some things. I would miss spell every word if it wasn't for spell check. Even if you don't believe what she saying maybe by giving a honest hearted answer you could help some one else.
So please people be loving and understanding. Not judgmental and angry that some one can not spell that good. How would you all feel if (as I think) she isn't lying but she ends up hurting her self because of what some of you said. Then you wonder why people don't want to tell on sick people who hurt them. Its out of fear that people will look down on them and think that they lied or did some thing wrong. Its not her fault its the sick mans fault.

Answer 4

Jehovah's Witnesses sadly admit that there are imperfect persons among them, and occasionally hurtful things are said and done by an ostensible "Witness". Even a member of a local congregation's body of elders may behave regrettably.

That is one reason why generally it is TWO congregation elders (rather than one) who meet with a Christian seeking spiritual encouragement or Scriptural guidance. An elder who insists on meeting alone with a child or woman is likely to be removed from his privileges, so the "elder" described in this question seems to be ignoring all or most of the training Jehovah's Witnesses provide to appointed elders.

It is also disappointing and surprising to read in this question that any "elder" among Jehovah's Witnesses would feel the need to share his personal opinion about the veracity of a self-described abuse victim. Similar to his apparently unchaperoned meeting with a child or woman, such unwarranted expressing of personal opinion would tend to disqualify a man from serving as a congregation elder. Very few mature Christian men (especially those who who value their privileges) feel the need to verbally opine when their opinion can only hurt and cannot help to resolve a situation.

Perhaps this answerer misunderstands...
Might the understandable shock and initial speechlessness of the "elder" have been somehow misunderstood by the questioner as though it were literal disbelief? Perhaps it would be useful for this apparent victim to share exactly how this matter was handled by the local body of elders (or unaccompanied solitary elder) and exactly what was said... no doubt others will be able to reassure this questioner as to the loving nature of the vast majority of appointed Christian shepherds.

Of course, the wrong or right opinions of one imperfect spiritual adviser will not stop criminal abuse, prosecute a criminal abuser, or imprison a criminal abuser. Only the government and its agents can do that, so it probably makes sense for this questioner to work with secular authorities to pursue this secular matter.

Obviously, the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses cannot prosecute or imprison criminals.

Learn more:
http://jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/717263.htm
http://jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/713173.htm
http://jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/716353.htm
http://jw-media.org/region/global/english/backgrounders/e_molestation.htm
http://jw-media.org/region/americas/usa/english/releases/educational/usa_e990402a.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/19970101/
http://watchtower.org/e/19850122/
http://watchtower.org/e/19951101a/

Answer 5

Tell your mother what happened. She should believe you.
The "organization" is considered as true by the members, but the people in this organization don't show love and support to other members. For that reason about 10% of the members leave every year.
There is a definite 2nd layer to the JW's. It sounds like you have seen it. There are a number of cases listed where JW elders have abused people under their direction and the higher ups have covered it up.
If your mother doesn't believe you, you should still go to the police and report what is going on. Give the details about what took place, who you spoke to at the church and what they said.
If you need further help, please contact one of the following places. They are there to help you:
freeminds.org
bcmmin.org
macgregorministries.org

Answer 6

Hello Amber.

if what you claim is true, PLEASE you must tell your parents!!! Witness or not, what that person did to you is wrong and disgusting! YOU MUST TELL SOMEONE YOU CAN TRUST AND HELP YOU. If you must, call the police but let your parents know first.

Pray to Jehovah to give you courage to speak out and get help. This is going to haunt you for the rest of your life. You must do something about it now. You may be proctecting other girls your age or in your congregation. I am not here to judge but if this brother is proven guilty he will be disfellowshipped and will have the law dealing with him.

However, as sisterly advice, you should not be posting something as sensitive as this on the internet. It is just not proper. There are better ways to voice out your concern. Again, please tell your parents or friends you can trust and help you. Elders should be actively investigating this but if for any reason at all that they don't believe you, let your parents take over the matter...and pray to Jehovah.

Answer 7

I answered your first question, and I will only address the current question.

Try the silentlamb.org website, you will see you are not alone in being ill-treated, called a liar etc. You say you are young but old enough to know, so I trust you are old enough to begin to take responsibility for your own safety. Pick up the phone and call the local sheriff or police department and tell them what has happened. If they do nothing, contact your local state's attorney's office. First, tell your parents, they may or may not believe you, but that is irrelevant.

I was 36 years old when I told my parents what had happened to me as a child, they were supportive. Don't wait till you're that old. Be pro-active, protect yourself. Don't be alone with that person ever again.

We listen and we care but not being in direct contact with you, our hands are somewhat tied.

I know you must realize from the onslaught of comments to your previous question, that the organization will first and foremost protect themselves. YOU must protect YOU!

Even if the local congregation believes you and takes internal action against the brother, this is still a crime and MUST be reported to the authorities. Do not let the congregation tell you that it will bring reproach on the congregation to report it.

Feel free to email me if you would like to.

Answer 8

You should talk to someone you can TRUST, in confidence, such as your doctor. It sounds like you need some counselling. You've been through a very hurtful ordeal. Of course, the person who abused you will do anything to avoid being accountable for the harm that he caused you -- he does not want to be exposed and he will lie through his teeth to protect himself.

Seek help, and try to believe that you can get over this. Personally, I would suggest leaving the organization altogether. If you can't trust them after the abuse, then don't stay around. They will only try to make you feel more guilt and shame. Break free! Get liberated and get support from people you can trust. Good luck.

Answer 9

Never mind them. I'm glad that you reached out. The world as a whole doesn't like people preying on our children!

This place breeds skepticism. Go to your parents, I would listen to those who have been in this experience and were not heard. Go beyond the elders of your church. JW is not above the law.

Answer 10

The Internet is not a safe place to post personal problems. If there is a problem then they need to take it up with a parent. If the parents do not help then the police need to get involved.

Not knowing all the facts about a persons problem then giving out advice is not wise.