Those who say the Catholic Church is not biblical.. .
Where exactly did you get this information? Pastor? Sunday School? Website?
What makes your source credible?
An if you say the Bible that means you are opening it to interpretation so why is your interpretation correct and not the Catholic interpretation since the time of Jesus?
Finally, do you have any personal experience with Catholic Worship?
If your going to make the claims you have to be able to back it up, here is your chance with facts, not opinion.
2007-06-17
08:22:30
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I guess by biblical I should clarify meaning you say they don't follow the bible.
2007-06-17
08:27:21 ·
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see this is exactly why I ask where you get your information from:
Polygamy is and has always been a huge NO No in the Catholic Church.
Saints, confession are based on biblical teachings.
The Catholic doctrine of Saints states we are called to be saints (go to heaven). The church never claims to make saints it just recognizes a few.
SO where are you getting your information on the Catholic church from?
2007-06-17
08:43:31 ·
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I had to extend it because still no one has actually answered the questions. Ramjet is leading so far.
2007-06-20
09:57:53 ·
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I don't believe in Catholicism for a couple of reasons. First, when Jesus died on the cross, the curtain in the temple tore in two to signify that man no longer needed to go through a priest to go to God. He could go straight to God himself through the Holy Spirit. Second, nowhere in the bible does it say we should pray to dead people that a certain religious leader/leaders has proclaimed to be a pious person. They couldn't possibly know that person's heart anyway, only God can. Nor does the bible (or Jesus for that matter) say that we should pray to his dead mother. She was a good woman who was chosen to birth the son of God and should be honored, but she is not a god and, like the "saints" should not be prayed to ("saints" by the way is simply another word for "Christians".) Show me where in the bible it says that God gave the authority to answer prayers to anyone but himself, his son and the Holy Spirit. Some other good points are on this website:
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm
2007-06-17 09:21:38
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answered by Anonymous
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I noticed someone gave you a link to a website by an ex Catholic. If a Catholic never bothered to extend their knowledge of their faith beyond high school, they aren't that well catechized. A lot of people like that think they are experts on Catholicism.
Now, about those 7 books. I believe both Catholics and Protestants can make too much of an issue of them. I don't believe the inclusion or exclusion of those 7 books alone would cause a person to convert from Catholicms to Protestantism or from Protestantism to Catholicism. There is scripture in Maccabees about praying for the dead. I would imagine that most knowledgeable Protestants know the Jews say Kadish for their dead.
I became a Catholic back in 1960 reading the King James Version. So the exclusion of those books didn't effect me at all.
You are right about people having opinions about the Catholic Church and not knowing what it is all about. Many are very good people.
A lot of people do not know that the original definition of the word "pray" is to ask or petition. It only later took on a definition of worship. We pray to the Saints in Heaven to pray for us. That includes all the officially proclaimed saints or any person we feel certain is in Heaven. I have heard it said even those in purgatory can pray for us.
However, we also pray to the Father, the son, and the Holy Spirit.
2007-06-17 14:19:00
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answered by Shirley T 7
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I was raised Catholic, now a born again Christian.
I would never say that the Catholic church is not biblical. Certainly they believe in the same Christ that Christians believe in.
I would say, however, that they (the church, NOT churchgoers) come across as rather arrogant for saying that they are the original Church, when clearly scripture tells us that the body of believers is the church.
story: shortly after giving my heart to the Lord, I attended a Catholic baptism. While there, and following the service - I and my friend struck a conversation with a Sister of the Church. She was very kind, and was impressed with our Christian demeanour (praise God). She asked us, "where do you attend church?" to which we replied and added "we are born again Christians". Her demeanour immediately changed and she actually said "o that's too bad".
Now please understand - I am not bashing Catholics here, nor have I not forgiven this woman. Of course I have and I love her just as God does. I have nothing against her. I just feel it's rather sad that she would assume that not being a Catholic was too bad.
blessings :)
EDIT: why the thumbs down?
and Uh-Huh is absolutely right.... :)
with respect, there is no reason to argue among believers. We just all need to read and study more, but I fear that the divisions in the church (ie people of God) will only become deeper, as prophesied in revelation.
blessings sister :)
2007-06-17 10:32:39
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answered by Anonymous
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I am a grateful, recovering Catholic. Their teachings are based on fear. This is not Biblical. They try to terrify children about hell and tithing. This is not Biblical.
I was taught by Catholics to be terrified of God. They did not tell me that God loved me.
I saw women trying to have the best Easter bonnets on Easter Sunday. I saw most of the congregation drunk out of their minds at Midnight Mass.
Lots of priests are pedifiles.
Ages ago, in England, the congregation was not allowed to own or read Bibles because the priests and bishops and the pope did not want people to know what the Bible really said.
As far as Catholic Worship goes...it's monotonous. There is no spontaneity.
If you have to be Catholic and it works for you, that's fine. I just think Catholics are dead and dry.
I just want to love God and let God love me back.
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2007-06-24 05:08:21
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answered by Ophelia 4
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enable's no longer throw out the toddler with the bathwater yet. The Bible can nonetheless be useful, and continues to be good literature and a necessary portion of Western way of existence and arts. So are the different forms of literature oftentimes everyday as Holy Books such as a results of fact the Koran or I Ching or Bhagavad Gita or perhaps the Desiderata. each has its myths, yet additionally its truths. i won't be in a position to talk for others at this factor, yet for me my spirituality isn't based on no rely if or no longer the Bible is a hundred% genuine...and it quite is unquestionably no longer based on the politics of the Catholic church or the different church. The Bible and faith are valid, yet you quite won't be in a position to chop back spirituality to the two a e book, a construction or a company. there are a number of, many stuff in this worldwide that are no longer documented nor are they unavoidably explainable yet nonetheless they nonetheless would desire to be the actuality. each would desire to make up their own strategies on that score. there is not any one faith or faith community that corners the industry on actuality. To me, spirituality is style of a word in a music the rock movie star Rick Springfield wrote approximately 2 many years in the past on his 1988 album, Rock Of existence. The music is termed One reason to have faith. "I bow to the East or I kneel to the West. it quite is a controversy of religion and that i'm the only individual who has to belive it."
2016-09-27 23:25:14
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Due to the fact that these
Christians use the Protestant Old Testament which is lacking 7 entire books 2 (Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus/Sirach, Baruch, I Maccabees, and II Maccabees), 3 chapters of Daniel and 6 chapters of Esther may be one of the reasons they ask catholics so many questions.
For the Sola Scriptura this is too bad .
In the 16th c., Luther removed those books from the canon that lent support to orthodox doctrine, relegating them to an appendix. Removed in this way were books that supported such things as:
prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45),
Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7),
intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14),
and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15).
The lesson, though, is this: relying on the "Bible alone" is a bad idea; we are not to rely solely on Sacred Scripture to understand Christ's message. While Scripture is "given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16-17), it is not sufficient for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness. It is the Church that is the "pillar and ground of Truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)! Jesus did not come to write a book; He came to redeem us, and He founded a Sacramental Church through His apostles to show us the way. It is to them, to the Church Fathers, to the Sacred Deposit of Faith, to the living Church that is guided by the Holy Spirit, and to Scripture that we must prayerfully look.
2007-06-17 09:30:46
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answered by cashelmara 7
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Suggestion sister; The division between 'Christians' includes things added in the Bible, but are contrary to scripture presently.
Another 'piece' between the Catholics and Protestants are the 7 books accepted by Catholics; but rejected by many Protestants (I was raised in a Protestant denomination). However, after doing my own study, I agree with the 'Catholics' that those 7 books should be considered scripture.
2007-06-17 09:22:54
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answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7
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Yes, I have experience of worship in several different types of churches. Every church has traditions. These are ways of doing things such as baptisms, marriages, funerals, preaching, etc, which are not recorded in detail in the Bible. They have arisen based loosely on Scripture and by experience found to be useful and effective. Its up to you to decide if the tradition is reasonable and acceptable.
2007-06-23 22:02:41
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answered by cheir 7
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Where is your proof that it is? I take my facts from the Holy Bible. I can't find a lot of the things catholics do in the Bible. As a matter of fact, I find things that say not to do it. The Bible is my basis.
2007-06-24 06:42:47
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answered by byHisgrace 7
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My great-grandma is a Catholic and I have no doubt that she is saved because I know she is a member of Christ, however I do not recognize the Catholic Church itself as Christ's true church institution. The Pope is not exclusively selected by Christ and descended of Peter's authority. The idea that the Popes are descendants of Peter's authority that was given by Christ is merely a tradition, it is not written in scripture. Peter's election is written, but there is no hint whatsoever that Peter will have a successor who will be a Pope. The charge was given just to Peter.
2007-06-17 08:50:36
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answered by Anonymous
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