Why do religious folks never speak of bible prophecy that is unfulfilled or outright wrong? How is it that all of this can be completely ignored?
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/proph/long.html
2007-06-16
07:53:48
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Rachel----the fact that you won't read it proves my point. Simple facts that are readily ignored because they don't support your faith. Simple facts. God promised, god reneged.
You took the cheap way out by highlighting one of MANY examples and tried to explain it away.
2007-06-16
08:01:45 ·
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Bella----same as Rachel.
2007-06-16
08:02:46 ·
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Rachel again-----if god created man originally to be immortal how would the "soul" have ever been released from it's earthly body to go to heaven and....
wouldn't we be stacked about 100 bodies deep across the globe by now if nobody died??
2007-06-16
08:05:37 ·
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dwarf----the quran is no better....religious followers of any doctrine just focus on the parts that support their beliefs and ignore the rest evn if it's fact.
2007-06-16
08:07:45 ·
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Spock----please answer the question I posted toward Rachel then.
Again, you ignore the rest because you aren't "allowed" to even consider it.....that's why you're called a flock.
2007-06-16
08:09:50 ·
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Dave---another non-explanation.
History has proven the inaccuracy of bible claims.
# God promises to bring Jacob safely back from Egypt, but Jacob dies in Egypt (Gen.47:28-29) 46:3
In Jeremiah (34:4) God tells Zedekiah that he will die in peace and be buried with his fathers. But this verse and Jer.52:10-11 say that he died a violent death in a foreign land. 25:7
These verses falsely predict that Babylon will never again be inhabited. 13:19-20
This verse predicts that there shall be five cities in Egypt that speak the Canaanite language. But that language was never spoken in Egypt, and it is extinct now. 19:18
It's pretty clear that to the religious, anything in the bible that's been proven true is literal and anything that's been proven untrue, oh well that's just a metaphor then.
2007-06-16
08:19:48 ·
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derick---nicely and simply stated
2007-06-16
08:22:31 ·
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Have a nice day people :-)
2007-06-16
08:23:34 ·
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Malak---I was speaking of prophecies that have passed into history....things that CANNOT be fulfilled because they were already NOT fulfilled.
There are several examples above and many more at the site you're afraid to look at.
Ok, now have a nice day people :-)
2007-06-16
08:27:26 ·
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sorry one more
religious links are propaganda too....it's just point of view right?
2007-06-16
08:28:45 ·
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tek----please explain the examples I've included above.......let's see you do the twist.
2007-06-16
08:39:44 ·
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tek---"heaven and earth weren't originally seperate"
and you expect me to keep reading after silliness like that.......Poseidon ruled the sea once too......natives threw virgins into volcanoes to appease the gods.....etc.
Are you familar with the child's rhyme "Ring Around the Rosey"? It goes:
Ring around the rosey
A pocket full of posies
ashes, ashes....etc.
This rhyme had to do with the plague....the rhyme originates thousands of years after the bible's origin........the ring rosey was a ring shaped rash......but why a pocket full of posies? .....well, it's because the genius' of the time beleived that the plague was spread through bad smells.......this was the intellectual level thousands of years after the bible was written......so you can imagine how "uninformed" the people were back in biblical times...the less informed you are, the more pliable your mind is.
Maybe you can explain how the fresh and salt water seperated after the great flood...that question is out here too.
2007-06-18
09:12:25 ·
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Humans use selective reasoning not just to convince others of their case, but also to convince themselves.
For some people, their beliefs are so important to them, they'll do anything to avoid facts that contradict them.
2007-06-16 08:13:33
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answered by Derick 3
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1) Genesis 4:12 (KJV) "A fugitive and vagabond shalt thou be in the earth." In other words, a runaway and a traveler. It doesn't say anything about never having a home. 2) If you read the entire prophecy of Jeremiah 36, you will understand that the prophecy applies to King Jehoiakim who was the king of Judah at the time of the Babylonian conquest. The prophecy was telling the king that none of his children would inherit the throne. His son, Jehoiachin, ruled for only 3 months, and he didn't rule over the nation. Babylon was already in power. All scholars agree that Jehoiakim was the last king of Judah. 3) Nebuchadnezzar destroyed Tyre after a siege of 13 years in 573 BC. Alexander came along 200 years later and destroyed the rebuilt city. 4)Immanuel means "God with us". Jesus was God in human flesh and He walked among men. So He was with us. There is a great debate over the word "alma." Some say that it means young woman or maiden. That does not discount the meaning of the word "virgin", since as in the Middle East today, it would be assumed culturally that any young, unmarried woman would be a virgin. The fact that someone who is hostile to the Bible finds fault with it is hardly surprising. But your poor research does nothing to prove the Bible is wrong.
2016-05-17 09:58:43
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answered by Anonymous
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I never click on links, especially ones that are obviously nothing more than propaganda. We do discuss unfulfilled prophecy, quite often, along with fulfilled prophecy, guess you aren't here that often. You want examples? Okay, there's the prophecy written over 2,000 years ago that Israel would become a nation again, which happened in 1948. Then there's the unfulfilled one where the tribulation will start during the generation of Israel becoming a nation again (biblical generation is 70 years), giving us until 2018 for things to heat up. Then there's the unfulfilled "mark of the beast", which is looking to be the verifchip, or something very close. Maybe if you checked more often, you'd see the questions you say we don't discuss. Then again, when you're here only to bash, your agenda doesn't really have much to do with truth, huh?
2007-06-16 08:12:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Supporting Rachel:
This site was written by people with an agenda to discredit us, and if they can't even get the first one right and made it into a lie, then why bother looking at the rest. I went through most and the same thing happened with just about every one of them. I saw assumptions and misreads. I saw them switching the people around on one occasion. I can see where she is coming from on this one. A site that is dedicated would work harder to discredit people, and maybe take into account that some of us read our Bible.
2007-06-16 07:57:41
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answered by Chris 5
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The link that you have provided simply proves what we muslims keep on saying, that the bible has been corrupted.
And God says in the Quran:
1) Do they not then consider the Quran carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradictions.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #82)
As for prophecies, some prophecies have not yet come to pass but they will. If a true prophet said it, you can rest assured that it will come true, its just a matter of when.
The anti-christ will come.
there will be a war between christ and anti-christ.
anti-christ will be defeated.
etc.
When?
when god decrees it to be.
EDIT: storm devil. Incorrect. the quran does not have contradictions. In fact it corrects the christians. For example, according to the bible, abraham(pbuh) was ordered to sacrifice his only son isaac. however, by the time that isaac was born abraham had already had two sons. On the other hand, the quran says that it was Ismail who was to be offered for sacrifice.
Now that makes sense since he was his only son at the time.
translations have indeed corrupted the bible.
2007-06-16 08:04:31
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answered by swd 6
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Because not all of those are unfulfilled/wrong. Just taking the first one: Adam ate the fruit and he did die, didn't he? Just not right away. The idea here is that man was immortal until the Fall. I'm not going to go through looking at every single one, but keep in mind that website was written by people with one agenda in mind and people with a different agenda could write one, too. Doesn't make it true.
2007-06-16 07:57:42
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answered by Anonymous
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Religion is not overseen by any governmental agency like the FDA that oversees advertising to the consumer, to make sure things like fair balance is included. When a drug is advertised on TV, you notice there is a lot of language on the side effects, who should not take the drug, etc.
Too bad religion is not subject to governmental oversight.
2007-06-16 08:25:30
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answered by CC 7
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They may sincerely hope that you have forgotten about such unfulfilled prophecies, or that you will be so humble (meek) and so respectful and not dare speak openly about them, otherwise the may say that "the ways of our Almighty Lord are past understanding".
There is some sort of transcendental meaning behind all this that is not up to us to grasp. Not yet. Maybe never in our present state of evolution.
2007-06-16 08:06:17
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answered by pasquale garonfolo 7
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Hello and Adam when He ate of that tree soon His Connection was pulled away from God and His spiritual life DID die, it was ONLY because of The Grace of God [see John 1. Heb.13:8] of Jesus Christ the second member of The Godhead that came between Adam and Eve and death, in John 1 we understand the person addressing them in Gen.3:15 was indeed Jesus telling the prophecy that God would come and destroy the works of satan and sin, and He Jesus Did and be careful not to read scriptures out of context, remember God pronounced sentence on the world when Noah was in that ark but it was SEVEN days later before God destroyed this world with water, and there is one other prophecy that you should be aware of its Found in the book of Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Read scripture IN CONTEXT that means to read verses around the ones and PRAY ask God to send His Holy Spirit to Guide before reading, studying also the other stuff is just as misunderstood, you plans are to close your eyes [satan is the one closing them] to your ONLY escape way out of this open grave called earth, try free bible lessons first www.amazingfacts.org email me not messenger also wgr88@yahoo.com God bless
2007-06-16 08:04:10
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answered by wgr88 6
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Because then they would have to admit that their "vision" has no foundations, or they were wrong, can't have that. Then there is the Sueing factor, some institutions are very rich, if they admit publicly, that they were wrong about an action they took, in the name of whatever god, they could be liable to be sued. Like class action suites. They no like that.
2007-06-16 08:08:13
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answered by Anonymous
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