From a religious standing, how is micro-evolution not synchronized with overall evolution?

Question

Most churches accept the idea of micro-evolution, so how is that not in-sync with the idea of evolution as a whole?

Micro-evolution is the alteration of a specific trait due to natural response occurring over numerous generations, also known as change at or below the species level.
Mutation, natural selection, gene flow, genetic drift and nonrandom mating are all possibilities for the reasons of micro-evolution

Answer 1

Simply causal of the fact that all micro-evolution stays IN phylum. No concrete evidence has ever been displayed concerning any specie changing phylum, or as scripture states "kind". No cat has ever been shown to become a dog.... etc.

For instance, we have birds that have lost the power of flight, in evidence right now, but flight or not, they are still BIRDS. We have new species of flies, but they are still FLIES.

Micro-evolution (change within specie) in no way demonstrates conclusively any proof of Macro-evolution (change within phylum).

You wish to prove evolution on the Macro scale? Find something that is genetically part-bird part-lizard.... GENETICALLY.

Macro-evolution has come from the notion that since this skeleton looks similar to this one, and is older, it must have evolved into it. No genetic or other scientific proof mind you, just guesswork. Here is an example:

If you were to aquire the skeletons from every living animal today, you would be able to piece together how a modern mouse evolved into an elephant, proveable by carbon dating, in less than 1 year.

The method used to prove the idea is the problem.

Concerning carbon dating. Go back to the start of the controversy. Assume that the christian unscriptural notion of it "never having rained before the flood"... consider the what if: IE God created the rainbow.

Now, if you consider the fact that if it were true, then light did not refract BEFORE this point. As an ex-physicist, I can assuredly tell you that if you modify one law or principle concerning electromagnetic radiation, you affect THEM ALL in some manner.

I find it interesting that such a solid tool of accurate measurement, does not read a smooth curve concerning artifact dating. IE it is amazing that after five thousand years or so old, carbon dating starts jumping drastically in its estimation of time lapse, WHEN IT SHOULD BE A SMOOTH CURVE.

If you want a mind bender, read Einstein's "Relativity: The Special and General Theory" and compare his thought models to the stated postulates as you go, and see if YOU cannot find where he violated his own postulates.

Why do I include this? Science is not as stable, or as rock solid as you believe. Look around you, and examine all of the theories, which are not viewed as theories, but as laws, and see for yourself how thin of a limb science has crawled out on.

I assure you that "truth in science" and your perceived ability in it largly depend upon how expensive of a degree you aquired, your connections, and your acedemic standing due to your popularity, rather than your innate ability and intelligence.

If you challenge the "status - quo" you are generally hung out on a limb to dry.

Go to a small but accredited college, get your degree suma *** laude, and see whether you beat out a c student from Haaaavad or MIT...... You already know the answer.

Truth be told, the entire universe points directly TO god, as everything in it strictly adheres to set rules, principle, and laws. The only thing truly chaotic is mans ego.

Consider this, chaos is mans definition of "I have no clue". WHY? Because there is no such thing as a chaotic system. If every piece of datum were known according to ANY system, then every interaction within the system could be predicted. It would be complex, to the extreme, but not chaotic. Every particle, every force, every reaction would be predictable. A "Chaotic" system is one in which the complexity of the system exceeds our ability to logically comprehend all aspects of it.

Science, through relativity, describes something that does away with the old notion of an Aether (a substance between everything), and gives us a whole NEW Aether...space-time. It has all of the properties of a substance, can warp, can transmit waves, etc. etc., just like the old Aether. It can even stretch! (I mean come on...)

I have examined science, closely, from the inside, and found it severely wanting. What I truly saw was acedemic infighting, with the person most capable with ridicule and sarcasm generally winning, never mind that whether something was true or not seemed most often to not even matter.

(Before you misunderstand, no I did not generally lose, which is NOT a good statement about me.)

I AM a Christian, because in part of what I have seen in science, and that God called me away from that garbage.

Paul

Answer 2

-Evolution is a theory which is the closest science can get to absolute fact, Gravity is a theory, Germ theory, Tectonic theory, All theories yet all clearly fact. Just like evolution -We have fossils of multiple species of humans and can track the evolution from before Australopithecus afarensis to homo erectus to us. Not only in fossil but also gene. All proven false. Many were deliberate frauds, known to be frauds even before they were make public. - We have observed lizards evolving a completely new stomach and jaw line over the course of 40 years after being moved to new locations Still a lizard. Changes WITH-IN a species does happen, a cat turning into a dog does not happen. - We can observe bacteria changing to become resistant to drugs within months this is caused by LOSS of DNA info, and only benefits the bacteria because it no longer makes the enzyme that the drugs mixed with to make poison. - We can breed a very specific species of dog whatever species we want with any traits and skills we want. This is selective evolution. This is breeding out DNA. for example, a category of dog that has lost the DNA for long fur will never get it back, unless they breed with another dog that still has that gene. While this is not a problem in warm places, the dog would not survive in the cold, so this is not really a benefit. -Change over time to adapt is a fact This is true, but there are limits to how far the change can go in a limited time, and the Earth is not old enough for big changes. -We did not come from monkeys like some creationists think. true, but we also do not have a common ancestor. -Monkeys will never turn into humans true - We share 99% of the same dna as our cousins false, proven false long ago. We are not even 99% the same as our mother and father. -We have organs which would have only suited us if we were still living on the Savannah Faulty logic. This is like claiming that trucks come from the south pole, and moved north past the tropics to the northern subtropics. Why else would they have heaters for the cold, and air-conditioners for warm weather. It is proof of planning for the future. All the evidence fits evolution while none points to a creator. Wake up and smell the roses of a science hitch-slap Wrong, and proven wrong many times.

Answer 3

The only difference between microevolution and macroevolution is time. They are both just different ways of approaching the same process. Scientifically speaking, there isn't a difference between the two - Christians mainly use both of those terms just so they can more easily draw a line between them.

Answer 4

Religious standing is the same as saying delusional thinking. Religions try to muddy up the water because they don't want to face the truth about their mythology. Anything they say is irrelevant - remember there the ones who insisted the earth was flat, that the moon cast it's own light and that the stars were held up by firmament. Their opinions on science are pure ignorance.

Answer 5

Interestingly, most christians don't even know what evolution is all about, let alone Micro / Macro stuff, logic makes their head spin.

Answer 6

Catholicism teaches darwinian evolution.

Answer 7

Me don't understand either, the only difference between them is the speed in which they occur(microevolution is a lot faster).

Answer 8

Actually it's the Macro-evolution that is conflicting.