US citizens screaming AMNESTY? Word doesn't even apply. There are punative measures in place. STOP THE HATE!!!

Question

Im an american citizen.. born and raised... Family has been here about 3 hundred years. I can't believe how passionate people are against starting a process that will give Illegals the opportunity to become citizens... People are sreaming "AMNESTY"... give me a break.. its a bs word for the uneducated... no proposal currently being reviewed by the house resembles the word. There are punative measures in place which deals with their illegal entry... not a free pass. Bottom line, IMPOSSIBLE TO SEND EVERYONE BACK... NEED TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE AND LET DECENT HUMAN BEINGS SEEKING A BETTER LIFE OBTAIN STATUS.. use the punative dollars (finance them if you have to... not our taxes) to secure the borders. Unregistered illegals will be easier to find.. INS wont be so swamped. People have no idea what they are talking about... Maybe we should deport all citizens in the US who have a problem with how this country was originally populated... maybe the Native Americans should kick our *** out...

Answer 1

thank you, I could not agree more, considering the Puritans immigrated here illegally, should we not kick everyone descended from them out? Would not happen. So let's just ge the comprehensive immigration bill passed that secures the borders and provide a path to citizenship.
They will get temporary legal status contingent on obtaining a work permit. They would have to apply for a work permit which would expire after 1-2 years( they are still fighting over THAT time limit) with the option to renew it ONE time only after that.
It is not amnesty, the whole process is not without punishment for the people who would benefit from the bill. It will not be free. As it stands right now
to apply for residency
application fee $325.00- I-130 form (this is just for the Department of Justice to approve that to say they are eligible to apply for a green card)
For work permit $180.00
Adjustment of status $325.00 form I-485 which adjusts their status to legal alien with a "green card" number
For this "path to citizenship they are proposing"
For every year they were here which they will have to prove and they have had to have been here by a specific cut off date
1) The bill wants to have them pay BACK TAXES ( this might be removed)
2) they have to pay a fine of about $5,000 ( might get lowered to $2,000)
3) Retaining an immigration attorney to do paperwork alone is about $1,500- $3,000
total so far:- $7,330-$8,830 and this does not count the back taxes.
As of August 1,2007, the application fees will triple so.....
$1,010 I-130
$ 340 work permit
$1,010- I -485
total $8,860-$10,360. This does not even factor in an application for a child under the age of 14 which would add an additional $600 or an adult parent such as a grandmother over the age of 79 which would add an additonal $930 not the mention those BACK TAXES. All told if it is a family of 4 2 adults, 2 kids their bill alone would $17,420-$18,920
On the minimum wages most of these people get, they won't meet those levels.
They have to go to back of the line ,so to speak, of those who already put in their paperwork.
then when they become residents, they would have to wait the 5 years before they could apply for citizenship, which would be another $675.
In the meantime, they will be paying taxes. The process could possibly take about 11 years.
Amnesty
noun
1. a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment

Those exhorbitant fees on what they make does not come across to me as getting in without consequences

Answer 2

All this whining and griping about the problem and saying what should have been done and wasn't done, and pointing fingers -- mostly at present Dems and forgetting that past Repubs did nothing either. Now, taking the situation as we have it now in 2015, what is the solution? And remember, we're talking about thousands and thousands of little children and babies born in this country who ARE LEGAL U.S. CITIZENS by law whose parents are illegal aliens. Now stop griping and pointing fingers and come up with a solution that make sense!

Answer 3

Amnesty means forgetting or forgiving something. Perhaps you want to apply for asylum? You can apply, but I don't think you'd get far; you'd have to show that your life was in danger because of state persecution, or something similar.

Answer 4

I think it's called Amnesty, because all illegal aliens are in violation of immigration laws and subject to immediate deportation. In other words, we know they are criminals, but many wish to erase their debt to society and welcome them.
It's not impossible to deport all illegals. People say that, because they have a reason for keeping the illegals here. Government says that, because they are furthering the interests of big business.
Big business wants the illegals, as a (never-ending) source of cheaper labor.
Most of the illegals are Mexican. If Americans tried the same illegal immigration tricks in Mexico, they'd be thrown in prison, and rightly so. But in the U.S., this sort of law-breaking is encouraged, only because big business wants the law-breakers.
Illegal aliens are a huge drain on the economies of certain states. Also, there numbers contain a high percentage of murderers, rapists, and robbers. We don't need and we don't want them.
Your rationalizing the problem doesn't help. If illegals were dealt with the same (swiftly) as, say, speeders on the highway, they'd be deported soon after found. Contract law is fairly simple...

Answer 5

Calling amnesty "a bs word for the uneducated" is hardly going to stop the hate. Some of these people might actually have first hand experience with illegals and feel passionately about their position. (Others are just plain ignorant of course)

Answer 6

Relax, sweetheart. What should happen is the laws that are and have been in place should be enforced, and those that are here ILLEGALLY should be sent back to from whence they came. Its not a racist issue; I'm Irish, and if that many Irishmen were here ILLEGALLY, I'd say the same thing; ship 'em back. I dont hate these people, I hate that they are breaking the law...12 Million criminals living here, most not paying taxes, and most unskilled labor. Don't say they aren't criminals, because being here ILLEGALLY makes them so. I would have no problem if all 12 Million of them were here LEGALLY.

Answer 7

How soon we forget!!!!!
We did this in 1987 and promised the American taxpayer that the border would be secured and we would have no more problems with illegals.
What a crock that was and still is.
People who do not contribute to the cost of social programs shouldn't be a burden on the rest of us. For each dollar an illegal contributes it cost American tax payers two dollars to sustain them.

Answer 8

Is there a question here? Because it sounds like an opinion. My family has been here over 10,000 years and we regret letting your people in.
Illegal immigration is in the forefront of our national security. If undocumented Aliens can slip into this country so can our enemies. In fact they already have. We need to secure our borders especially our southern border where radical Islamics sneak in disguised as migrant workers.
A general amnesty would allow us to have a national registry. Any one not registering should be consider an enemy of the state and treated as such.

Answer 9

Maybe the rest of our criminals should be able to pay their way out of jail for their offenses. Just a little at a time, so they can afford it (especially if they have families that need them). And maybe spend one or two days a month in jail until they are done paying. It's too costly and makes no sense to try to keep them all in jail, right? It wouldn't be AMNESTY, would it? Oh, and make them sign a paper promising to never be bad again.

It's basically the same thing. And I am in favor of neither. But it's odd that so many pro-illegal arguments could be used for our non violent offenders, yet no one wants to offer them amnesty. No one wants to help keep these families together or help the offender reintegrate into society. Their records follow them for life and the loss of opportunities is often permanent.

Answer 10

get a clue, you have none now. Immigration has always had quotas. BTW, when you let a illegal stay that is Amnesty. The Pu native measures will be submitted as a amendment, they are not there now in the bill Bush supports..

Answer 11

A general pardon granted by a government= Amnesty. The word fits perfectly.