Jehovah Witnesses - what verse says Michael is Jesus..?

Question

Or Jesus is Michael

Answer 1

There is no verse to support this.

Answer 2

"And war broke out in heaven: Mi´cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled . . ." Revelation 12:7

Michael, as the ONLY archangel (the term itself means "arch", or preeminent angel) is naturally the commander of the heavenly armies of God.

"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures say with a voice as of thunder: “Come!”
2 And I saw, and, look! a white horse; and the one seated upon it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went forth conquering and to complete his conquest." Revelation 6: 1,2

We all understand that the rider wearing the crown and riding the white horse in John's vision is the resurrected Jesus Christ acting as God's instrument of justice- he LEADS THE HEAVENLY ARMIES.

"Because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first." 1 thessalonians 4:16

The Lord is Jesus Christ-he will have an "archangel's voice." Again, there is only ONE archangel.

And contrary to what many claim, Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT say that Jesus is ONLY Michael the archangel. As the "only begotten" son of God and the "firstborn of creation" we see that in his heavenly existence he is Michael, the most powerful and prominent of the angels, and on Earth was Jesus Christ, a perfect human and son of God.

Answer 3

None. But consider: The name of this Michael appears only five times in the Bible. The glorious spirit person who bears the name is referred to as “one of the chief princes,” “the great prince who has charge of your [Daniel’s] people,” and as “the archangel.” (Dan. 10:13; 12:1; Jude 9, RS) Michael means “Who Is Like God?” The name evidently designates Michael as the one who takes the lead in upholding Jehovah’s sovereignty and destroying God’s enemies.

At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (RS), the command of Jesus Christ for the resurrection to begin is described as “the archangel’s call,” and Jude 9 says that the archangel is Michael. Would it be appropriate to liken Jesus’ commanding call to that of someone lesser in authority? Reasonably, then, the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ. (Interestingly, the expression “archangel” is never found in the plural in the Scriptures, thus implying that there is only one.)

Revelation 12:7-12 says that Michael and his angels would war against Satan and hurl him and his wicked angels out of heaven in connection with the conferring of kingly authority on Christ. Jesus is later depicted as leading the armies of heaven in war against the nations of the world. (Rev. 19:11-16) Is it not reasonable that Jesus would also be the one to take action against the one he described as “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil? (John 12:31) Daniel 12:1 (RS) associates the ‘standing up of Michael’ to act with authority with “a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time.” That would certainly fit the experience of the nations when Christ as heavenly executioner takes action against them. So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God.

Answer 4

Plainly, the bible speaks of Jesus in glory and honor, but also discusses the fact that at some point (which Christians may not agree on) Jesus Christ the Son (who is much more than a mere angel) has been appointed by Jehovah God the Father as King of God's Kingdom. Jehovah God is the source of Christ's authority, so that Jesus at some point is plainly "better than the angels".

(Hebrews 1:3-4) [Jesus] sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places. 4 So he HAS BECOME better than the angels [caps added]

(Matthew 28:18) And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: "All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.

(Acts 2:36) God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you impaled.

(John 3:35) The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand.

(Acts 5:31) God exalted this one as Chief Agent and Savior to his right hand

(Psalm 2:2-6) The kings of earth take their stand And high officials themselves have massed together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one... Jehovah himself will hold them in derision..., Saying: "I, even I, have installed my king [Jesus]


Such a "king" is not the peer of his subjects, and clearly, an "archangel" is not the peer of mere angels.

Christendom has pretended that Gabriel is also an archangel, and that Satan had been; both ideas have no foundation in Scripture. Some religions in Christendom invent names for four or five additional supposed "archangels"; those invented names have no foundation in Scripture. "Archangel" actually means "Chief of the Angels"; the fact remains that the bible itself speaks of only one single solitary archangel. The Scriptures never use the term "archangel" in the plural, but only in the singular.

Who is a better person than Jesus to be the single "Chief" of all faithful angels? Of whom can it be said that faithful angels belong to him, or are "his"?
2 Thes 1:7 Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels
Rev 12:7 Michael and his angels battled


The bible certainly teaches that the archangel Michael is the same person as Jesus.


Note that Jesus the Lord calls with an archangel's voice:
1 Thes 4:14-16 Jesus died and rose again, so, too... the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice


Do two different persons present themselves during a time of "distress" such as has "not occurred" before?

Dan 12:1 And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people. And there will certainly occur a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time.

Matt 24:3-21 Disciples [asked Jesus] what will be the sign of your presence...?" And in answer Jesus said to them: "...All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. ...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world's beginning until now


Do two different persons both lead the heavenly armies?

Rev 19:13,14 [Jesus] is The Word of God. Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him

Rev 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled


Once you study it, the bible really teaches that Michael is another name for Jesus. Though the term may confuse some, Jesus can properly be called an "archangel" or an "angel" (though not a mere angel) or a "son of God" or a "morning star" (though not a mere 'morning star'). Interestingly, the Scriptures refer to *ALL* angelic spirit creatures as "morning stars" (not just Jesus or Lucifer). Note that the archangel Jesus is uniquely elevated above mere angels by the title "the BRIGHT morning star".

Job 38:4,7 When [Jehovah] founded the earth... When the morning stars [or "angels"] joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause

Rev 22:16 I, Jesus... I am the root and the offspring of David, and the BRIGHT morning star. [caps added]

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/20050422/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/19951101/article_02.htm

Answer 5

Our belief is not based upon any one individual passage; rather all our beliefs are based "all Scripture" as a whole.

Some interesting facts concerning the One who led Israel from Egypt in a pillar of cloud by day and protected them in a pillar of fire at night:

1. We are told that this was Jehovah. - Exodus 13:21, 22.

2. We are told that this was an angel. - Exodus 14:19.

Well, which was it, Jehovah or an angel? A consideration of Exodus 23:20-23 helps us to see that it was his angel, acting under his authority. (There are other cases as well where an angel of Jehovah is spoken of as if he were Jehovah. Sometimes these angels are referred to in other places as "men." The angels who spoke to Abraham and to Lot are examples.)

3. Then in 1Corinthians 10:4 we are told that this is Christ.

This is not saying that Jehovah is Jesus (or Jesus is Jehovah) because we have already seen that it was actually an angel acting in the name of, with the authority of, Jehovah. Most churches acknowledge that this angel was Jesus in his prehuman existence.
Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus in heaven is the Archangel Michael. Most churches argue that Jesus was not an angel, despite the previous fact above. Since the Bible teaches that Jesus, at least in that one case is an angel, why should the Son of God be any less the chief angel, the one Archangel? Consider the following:

The name of Michael (the Archangel) appears only 5 times in the Bible. He is spoken of as “one of the chief princes,” “the great prince who stands up for (or has charge of) your (Daniel’s) people,” and as “the archangel.” – Daniel 10:13; 12:1; Jude 9. Michael means “Who Is Like God?” The name evidently designates Michael as the one who takes the lead in upholding Jehovah’s sovereignty and destroying God’s enemies.

At 1Thessalonians 4:16, the command of Jesus Christ for the resurrection to begin is described as “the archangel’s call,” and Jude 9 says that the archangel is Michael.
Would it be appropriate to liken Jesus’ commanding call to that of someone lesser in authority? Reasonably, then, the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ. (Interestingly, the expression “archangel” is never found in the plural in the scriptures, implying there is only one.)

Revelation 12:7-12 says that Michael and his angels would war against Satan and hurl him and his wicked angels out of heaven in connection with the conferring of kingly authority on Christ. Jesus is later depicted as leading the armies of heaven in war against the nations of the world. (Revelation 19:11-16) Is it not reasonable that Jesus would also be the one to take action against the one he described as “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil? (John 12:31) Daniel 12:1 associates the ‘standing up of Michael’ to act with authority with a “time of trouble, such as has never been since there was a nation until that time.”

That would certainly fit the experience of the nations when Christ as heavenly executioner takes action against them. So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God.

Answer 6

You reject the bible's message two days ago. Why ask it again?

Notice, Wescostt & Hort

1 Thess 4:16 Greek word for word

"The same Master in shout of command (Order) in voice of chief messenger (archangel)"

No it is Jesus who is commanding as God's Chief Messenger. 'in the voice of chief messenger'

Emphatic Diaglott

"Himself the Lord with a command, with a voice of a chief messenger"


The verse Reads 'The Lord himself . . . with the archangel's voice"

And Jehovah's Witnesses are accused of taking things out of context.

As Jehovah's chief messenger: John 7:28 Therefore Jesus cried out as he was teaching in the temple and said: “YOU both know me and know where I am from. Also, I have not come of my own initiative, but he that sent me is real, and YOU do not know him. 29 I know him, because I am a representative from him, and that One sent me forth.”

As Jehovah's foremost Apostle: Heb 3:1

As Jehovah's only begotten.



By the way,

Where does Jesus say "I am God Almighty"?

Answer 7

If you're looking for a scripture in which Jesus says, "Hey everybody, my name's Jesus, but in heaven they called me MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL," you're not going to find it.

There are a number of indications that they are one in the same, which I believe someone else listed, so I won't go into it.

Answer 8

You already ask this question. The question has been answered. It just appears you do not like what the scriptures say.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjgHfAIOboJhoGi4UFcMJCfty6IX?qid=20070613052200AAKpqwT

Answer 9

"Billie Jean is not my lover
She's just a girl that says I am the one
The kid is not my son"

Thriller 3:16