Your question involves the mystery of the Trinity and the incarnation of the Second Person. Traditional Christianity accepts the concept of the Blessed Trinity, that is, One God but three Divine Persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The reference below is to the Catholic encyclopedia which gets long and a bit tedious, but which is worth a good read to understand the concepts.
Jesus, insofar as He is a human being, was born in time and did not pre-exist before His birth. However, insofar as He is God, the Second Person of the Trinity, He always was and always will be. But the Second Person, the Son, took human flesh in time, so that Jesus, the God-Man, did not exist until His conception in the womb of Mary.
2007-06-15 06:30:09
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answered by Sebastian 3
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Elohiym is a plural noun that should have been rendered Mighty Ones but instead the translators gave us god from the germanic gott which means a molten image. the Mighty Ones have always Existed in a dimension where time has no beginning nor end - I Am exodus 3:14 / isaiah 57:15 / revelation 1:8 the One known as the Father is the Boss while the One known as the Son is the Lord God of the old covenant and the Messiah of the new testament - hosea 13:4 / john 1:1-10 / philippians 2:6-7 / john 15:23 the original texts were inspired from Heaven (2 timothy 3:16) but the later translators apparently were not .
2016-05-21 02:22:11
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answered by ? 3
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The trinity always existed...
From Genesis, "In the beginning God..." the word God is Elohim. One connotation of Elohim is as a collective noun in the Hebrew. (A singular entity having multiple parts, like "team.")
At the very least, Elohim indicates a plurality within God.
"Let US make man in OUR image..." from Genesis 1:26 reveals thoughts and communication between the members of this "plurality" (the Trinity).
Additionally,
The "Angel of the LORD" ("Lord" in caps) indicates Deity, so that usually refers to Jesus, as a messenger of God in the Old Testament. Theophanies and Christophanies abound in the O.T. These are always physical manifestations of God, from the burning bush, to the Angel that Jacob wrestled with.
The "Spirit of God" is mentioned throughout the Old Testament.
2007-06-15 06:23:12
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answered by Bobby Jim 7
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Make your own attitude that of Christ Jesus, who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be used for His own advantage. Instead He emptied Himself by assuming the form of a slave, taking on the likeness of men. And when He had come as a man in His external form, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death—even to death on a cross.
Philippians 2:5-8
We believe there is one God, eternally existing in three persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit
2007-06-15 06:22:49
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answered by Anonymous
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The answer to that is in Philippians 2:5-11.
5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7 but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
So the Bible talks about Jesus existing in the form of God prior to his becoming a servant and taking on the human form.
John 1:1-5 talks about Jesus being with God at the time of creation, and taking part in the act of creating everything else. This is. again, before he take human form (verse 14).
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.
3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Jesus himself claims to have been already in existance before his birth, having appeared to Old Testament people such as Abraham (see John 8)
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."
57 "You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!"
58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
So the Bible teachs that Jesus existed before he took on human form.
2007-06-15 06:27:45
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answered by dewcoons 7
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As the greatest marketing ploy of all time, it's fairly certain that some forethought went into the strategic planning surrounding the product rollout campaign on this one.
The cult of Mithra had had fairly good success in the years leading up to the rollout of Jesus 1.0, so there was some good beta test data to rely on.
Consider for a moment that John the Baptist was known to Mary (her brother in law actually), long before the actual market build was initiated. Careful study of teh New Testament will reveal that JTB was the driving force behind this whole campaign and that JC was basically trained into the role by his uncle in law.
Thus, the "jesus christ" concept was fairly well established prior to his birth.
2007-06-15 06:27:21
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answered by Izzy F 4
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They weren't made. All 3 parts of the Trinity (God, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit) have always existed. In Genesis, when man is created, the words spoken are "Let us create man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness". God doesnt have bad grammar.......he's talking about all 3 of them. Plus, in the new testament, it says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". This is referring to Jesus, because it also says that Jesus is the Word made flesh.
2007-06-15 06:12:33
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answered by pocketful_of_sunshine 4
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Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
2007-06-15 06:15:16
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answered by His eyes are like flames 6
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Yes he was the firstson of God in heaven (colossians 1:15-17) remember that all angels are sons of God (Job 1:6 and 2:1) he has a proper name Christians denied that but the bible call him the great prince in Daniel 12:1 and says his name.
". The soul is eternally existing. You were also existing before you were born physically"
Where in the bible says that?
2007-06-15 06:13:57
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answered by Anonymous
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The Christ has existed eternally with God the Creator and Holy Spirit... Jesus was the incarnation of the Christ, fully human and fully divine.
2007-06-15 06:10:47
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answered by tracymoo 6
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