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100mm fork is the XC standard
can a 80mm or fork more than 100mm be used during XC competition?

2007-06-15 00:03:26 · 5 answers · asked by ivan_up_down 2 in Sports Cycling

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80mm was the standard for a long time. But with advances in fork technology 100mm is now found more often. All the major manufactures now offer forks that have travel lockout and / or the ability to change the effective travel while riding. For Competition riding these are great advances, turn the lockout on while hammering on the flats, A hill comes up turn the rapid wind down from full travel to min. and climb like a goat.

Please read Es99's post he has some good advice.
As a side note, in your comment you wrote "Xc competition" so I assume you either are or want to race. While you are thinking about what fork to use do some serious thinking on the course conditions. Es99 stated when racing he did not have time to adjust his fork. This would tell me the tracks he races on most likely have climbs less than 10~15min. long. One of the tracks we race on you climb steady for 30~35 min. with only two short flat spots. Being able to wind down the front fork helps keep your seat from being far up your butt, and allows you to keep full travel for the ride down. I race with two different forks, most of the time I use a Fox F100X, but at tracks involving a lot of long climbs I switch to a Rock Shox Reba w/ U-turn to lower the front down to 85mm for climbing, then on the descents I open it up to 115mm.

2007-06-15 02:02:01 · answer #1 · answered by MtBikr 7 · 0 0

As you point out, 100mm is now the most common. For racing, I still use an 80mm on a hardtail (although for longer races, my FS is starting to be my favorite). During a race, I don't have time to mess around with a lock-out (no bar-mount lock-out, adds weight and I climb in the saddle - so little fork compression), so that feature doesn't matter much to me. If you climb out of the saddle, or on the flats, it can make a difference (if you have long stretches of that where you are).
You can also race with a 120mm (or more), but the geometry of the ride starts getting messed up (same as if you've ever put an older 63mm (like a '99 SID) on a current bike made for a 100mm. This actually works on some current FS designs for 100mm or 120mm where the front end is just WAY too high. I needed something that handled better/faster, so I installed an 80mm and went from a 110 stem to a 135. This had the effect of getting me in that XC-racing position (saddle higher than bars, long and flat over top tube). Keep in mind, bottom bracket height drops when doing this, so pay attention when clearing obstacles. It also lowers your center of gravity, making for a more stable ride and able to corner easier at higher speeds.
I DON'T see this working the other way around for XC racing. That is taking a bike designed for 80mm and placing a 120mm on it. The front will be way too high, placing you in an inefficient position to generate the speed you need for racing. Attacking climbs would be very difficult as it'll be hard to get your weight forward on the steep stuff.
Soooo, to answer your question, you can ride any fork/set-up you wish. Going with an 80mm on something designed for 100mm can improve your racing. Going the other way around, probably won't. Experiment, if you can. Swap forks with friends - as long as there is enough steer tube. Play with stem height by adding and removing spacers. Adjust the saddle - for/aft to see how it affects handling and power generation. Find a loop you can hammer on, time it, see how it feels, and keep doing it - experimenting. You'll eventually get it dialed in to where you'll excel - be it on a 63/80/100/120 or, ahem, RIGID.
Good luck!

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the bikes are designed around a specific fork dimension so that the builder can dial-in the steering geometry. Pay attention to that as you experiment with forks because you'll create either a steeper headtube angle (twitchier) or a more lax angle (slower responding). Some bikes that were dogs with the 'intended' angle, become pumas with a different angle.
So, be careful....and make sure everything is torqued right before heading out. Cheers.

2007-06-15 02:47:38 · answer #2 · answered by Es99 2 · 0 0

The problem of a soft fork is set-up related. Get an owners manual or go to a bike shop to have it set correctly. Too many people never do any suspension adjustments. Adjust your fork for your weight and riding conditions before you spend money on a new fork! Also changing to a shorter travel fork will cause you steering to quicken, longer than what the factory put on it will slow down the steering.

2016-05-21 00:52:46 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

I think that for full suspension XC bikes, 100mm is the standard, but on XC hardtails 80 mm is the standard.

2007-06-15 01:19:07 · answer #4 · answered by Roberto 7 · 0 0

the best for Marathon xc is 80 mm or any suspension with lock off

2007-06-15 07:45:39 · answer #5 · answered by G-T Rider 3 · 0 0

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