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Is there an ongoing dialogue within the Mormon church membership because of the overall media attention?

2007-06-14 19:09:55 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The assertion that Warren Jeff's group in not mormon is purely semantics. Jeff's group considers the Salt Lake group to be the one that broke tradition (and god's sacred commandment) of polygamy, and that Jeff's group is actually how the original pioneer group practiced mormonism.

The Mormons generally back down when faced with a political Hot Potato (Because god sometimes gives goofy 'revelations), and they may ultimately need to refute and expunge every pro-polygamous sentiment, speech, article and even doctrine, to be taken seriously. Otherwise, they appear to be lying when they say it's not practiced and an excommunicable offense.

Perhaps if they went back and did 'Excommunication for the Polygamous Dead", that would satisfy the controversy.

2007-06-15 05:36:38 · answer #1 · answered by Dances with Poultry 5 · 1 4

I personally haven’t noticed any ongoing dialogue within the LDS church to educate members about polygamy. But then, Jeffs isn't LDS Mormon, he's "fundamentalist" Mormon - there are different groups or sects of Mormonism. Some background info: I attend the local LDS services around twice a month. It’s a small congregation called a “branch” (because there aren’t enough LDS in this area to make a full-sized “ward”) located in the rural mid-west – not in Utah. So I admit I’m only sharing a small, localized sample. I do know that LDS members found currently practicing polygamy are excommunicated. I also know that LDS members here have a low opinion of Jeffs. …. . Information about polygamy is in official LDS canon in Doctrine & Covenants Section 132 and Official Declaration 1. (See links below.) In my experience it isn’t talked about much, probably because it's not an LDS practice anymore. I know LDS who have done further research on their own in order to learn more about it. Hopefully this helps answer your question.

2007-06-14 20:07:40 · answer #2 · answered by celticcat.1967 1 · 3 0

I don't see why they should- Warren Jeffs is NOT LDS. We know that Polygamy is wrong. We know that if we participate that we will be excommunicated. Besides, the way Warren Jeffs practices Polygamy was NEVER endorsed by the LDS church. His groups force young teenage girls to marry creepy old men. That never happened in the LDS Church and if it did, it was not approved by the leaders.

I do know that when there is a polygamist threat, that the church takes measures to combat it. One ward I lived in had a polygamist group that lived within the ward boundaries, they would come to church and try to convert the people from the ward into their group. It really took a toll on the ward members, the local leadership took certain actions to protect the ward members. They advised the members never to go to any of the polygamist homes without at least one other person with them. I think that if a woman had a reason to visit one of their homes, she was supposed to take her husband with her. They advised parents against allowing the children to have sleepovers during that time. Just really common sense stuff. As people joined the group, they were excommunicated. Eventually local law enforcement ran them out of town. But my point is that the Church does not beat a dead horse. There is really not a reason to constantly talk about this non-issue. When there is a local need, it is addressed by church leadership and local leaders- but that is the case with any issue.

Contrary to what the media may report, the Polygamist groups are not part of the LDS church. The media is very biased and lazy in their reporting. They have the correct information, but just like everything else they choose not to report it. They choose to only report what they want. It is no secret that the Media rarely reports correct information on most subjects, so why do people continue to listen to their blatent lies?

2007-06-15 06:38:41 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Why on earth would there there be an ongoing dialogue because Warren Jeffs violated the law? What on earth would be the point? What is there to talk about?

I mean what is the Church going to say, "See what happens when you don't listen to us and engage in criminal activities?"

Is the Church going to excommunicate people any more for commiting an excommunicating offense?

It's not the members that need educating on the subject. The members understand plural marriage quite well. The members understand that if you engage in it you are excommunicated. It's the media that needs to be educated. They are the ones who insist on pretending as though the Church is responsible for the actions of some fringe Apostate group that has rejected almost everything taught by Joseph Smith and the other Apostles. That would be like making the Catholic Church responsible for some non-denominational protestant sect that has less than fifty members. It's completely absurd.

And the Church is very proactive on educating the media. However, journalists out there tend to be a rather lazy bunch of individuals and dont bother doing any simple research. it's a crazy world we live in.

2007-06-14 20:35:45 · answer #4 · answered by Avatar_defender_of_the_light 6 · 6 0

Mormon develop right into a character interior the e book of Mormon, honestly a guy who develop right into a widely used or some style of protection rigidity chief and he had condensed and rewritten numerous the call of histories that the B of M have been taken from. So then during the early days of Smith organizing his new church human beings in simple terms all started calling them Mormons. It develop into in no way an good designation. this is like the know-how Yankee, which got here from the way the Huron and Mohawk tribes stated the know-how English: Yingeeze. Many different words we take with no attention on the instant have had comparable origins. an exciting one is the community human beings, that have been given noted as "indians" as a results of fact Colombus concept he had chanced on India. yet each and each tribe call in simple terms meant "the persons" or the "people" Then we've been instructed to call them community human beings, which the persons did no longer finally end up liking the two so now they have embraced the know-how Indian, in spite of the certainty that this is totally misguided. Now for all time they are going to be Indians, and of direction LDS human beings would be Mormons. I stay in Salt Lake city and no person right here has something stable to declare approximately Jeffs. No "Mormon" i be attentive to will declare him.

2016-10-09 06:14:39 · answer #5 · answered by milici 4 · 0 0

An person who is polygamous will be excommunicated from the LDS church as soon as discovered. This is well known and polygamy is no longer an LDS belief. The Mormon stance is a polygamous person is, by defination, not actually a believer or member.

2007-06-14 19:19:55 · answer #6 · answered by WhipDole 2 · 4 0

We know you history and polygamy is done for now.
As for Jeffs and the FLDS they aren't members of the church and most of them never was a LDS.
Polygamy has banned for almost 120 years, Jeffs and his band of FLDS live in another world. They don't recruit or do missionary work, so no new people are coming in opposite to what the LDS are doing. So the gene pool in the FLDS since its inception in 1920s are corrupted by incestual relationships with cousin marrying etc. You will see a lot of birth defects in the community.

2007-06-15 06:54:43 · answer #7 · answered by Brother G 6 · 2 1

I don't think it's a matter of educating members. People must know that Jeffs and his followers are not LDS members and that anyone that practices polygamy is not a Mormon.

2007-06-15 03:29:16 · answer #8 · answered by JessicaRabbit 6 · 4 0

I'm not an active member of the LDS church, although I still see myself as a LDS, forever.

The message of the Church is very clear relating to polygamy. Polygamy is deferred on earth until mankind is prepared to receive it again. Polygamy, as with other commandments are the fulfilment of Divine law, but due to human laws, and to avoid further suffering for His children, God has told the Church not to continue to practice polygamy for the time being. This is the new commandment, so anyone practicing polygamy is breaking God's commandment and will be excommunicated.

Some of you may say, but God does not change His laws. I will say, of course He does. Laws change to fulfil the needs of present societies. Take for example the ancient law of not eating animal with fended feet, like pork and so on. That is no longer a law by the new testament. There are many other examples, which I will not mention here.

Polygamy is a sacred law, it will be fulfilled in the Celestial Kingdom, but the Earth is so wicked that we are not worthy of its purity. Men abused the law, and started to take women for their sexual pleasures, and that is also why God has taken the commandment away. We are paying the price of our greed.

To me does not make any difference, because I am gay, and I would never marry women, neither one or two. Unless God allowed me to marry more than one men (I would love that really).

People who try to mock the LDS church are just moking themselves. I am very critic of my church, and I constantly point the finger to its rules, such as discriminating agaisnt Gay, Lesbian, bisexual and transexual people, but I also recognize truth when I see it.

2007-06-14 21:28:29 · answer #9 · answered by Mikhael 2 · 5 1

Why spend time on a practice no longer taught ? We have more present matters to attend to.
E.g. Welfare asistance to victims of natural disaster, Provide better Educational institions, teaching of self reliance, and other community involvements.

Warren Jeff is not LDS Mormon, it's not LDS' business to interfer how other religion practice their religion.

2007-06-14 20:07:49 · answer #10 · answered by Wahnote 5 · 4 1

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