Original Sin.....?

Question

We're saddled with it at conception, your thoughts?

Answer 1

When we are born into this world, we enter into a sinful world. We are not in God's world but Satan's world. We must live in the world with sin around us, and let the spirit of God guide us through.

God's world is Heaven or the Heaven that will be here on earth eventually... There will be no sin then. There is an age of accountability in which a person can accept Christ as their savior, whereby seperating them from their sinful lives, but they still have to battle the sin nature that was brought by Adam and Eve.

Answer 2

I am Jewish, and we do not believe in the existence of Original Sin. The concept of Original Sin simply states that because Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden, they brought Death into the world. Every human being dies because Adam and Eve committed a sin, and for their sin, all humans are punished with death. However, the Bible describes something entirely different. Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden because if they remained, they could eat the fruit of the Tree of Life, which would make them IMmortal. If Adam and Eve had to eat the fruit of the Tree of Life to become IMmortal, then they were created mortal to begin with. They did not bring Death into the world, and we don't die because they sinned. As a matter of Biblical fact, the answer to Question One shows that one person cannot die as the punishment for the sins committed by another. We die because Death is a natural part of existence, and has been since from the moment the first human beings were created. That is why God told the animals, before Adam and Eve ate the fruit from The Tree Of The Knowledge Of Good And Evil, to be fruitful and to multiply, since they needed to replace themselves. God also told the same thing to Adam and Eve before they ate that fruit as well.

Answer 3

Why conception? Do you think it is something genetic, that they should be looking for a cure for?! Isn't it more likely something that we get from the human influenced upon us as we grow and develop?

In Rabbinic Judaism, the idea of the good and evil impulses teaches that things like hunger and the sex drive are necessary, and we need to respond to these urges appropriately rather than allow them to drive us to act in ways that we would later regret. These things are part of our evolutionary heritage. The ways we deal with them we learn from parents and other people long before we are capable of making our own decisions about them. That's where I would locate that problematic aspect of our existence that Paul (in particular) talks about.

Answer 4

Adam and Eve chose to believe God's enemy instead of God.
This is treason. The whole earth is cursed because of it.
Since Adam and Eve sinned (or rebelled ) against God, we have inherited this sinful nature from them. We are born wanting our own way, not God's. But God made a way that we could be reconciled to Him and that is through believing in Jesus---who He is (God the Son) and what He did (died and rose to pay the penalty for our sins.)

Answer 5

no, we're not.

there's no such thing as original sin. everyone is born innocent. the fact that i'm born sinful because of somthing someone did thousands of years ago is a load of horsecrap.

and even if original sin did exist, we wouldn't be saddled with it at conception, since life does not begin at conception.

Answer 6

dont want to say anything.

JESUS loves you.Have u recieved JESUS for the forgiveness of your sins?

John 3:16[kjv] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

so when we believe in JESUS we have eternal life.JESUS lived a sinless life and gave up his life as a sacrifice so we can be sin free. Ask JESUS to come into your heart and forgive ur sins and cleanse ur past with the blood JESUS shed on the cross.

With a simple prayer like above u can be saved.JESUS loves u and wants u to be saved.

Answer 7

If I killed someone, would it be right to punish you for it? Of course not! You don't know who I am, or where I live, or anything like that, so you couldn't possibly prevent me from killing someone, and thus shouldn't be held accountable for my actions.

Yet some people would have us believe that a truly loving and just God would hold us accounable for the actions of someone a very, very long time ago. Sorry, but the God I believe in wouldn't do something like that.

Answer 8

One of the most horrendous and evil concepts to ever stain the face of human history.

It was Paul of Tarsus, not Jesus that came up with purely wicked concept of condemnation. In fact when christians, particularly Catholics quote "scripture" it is almost exclusively Paul they quote.

Jesus founded the Nazarenes, also known as the gnostics.
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/nazarenes/nazarenes_0010.htm

However, the Sadducee High Priests with Paul of Tarsus created the parasite religion called christianity to deceive even those who thought they follow Jesus.
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/founders_christianity/founders_christianity_0000.htm

+++A truly Satanic concept+++

In essence Jesus taught through his gnostic texts:

+ The god of the Old testament, the "jealous god", the "vengeful god" that demanded sacrifices, that demanded blood and war was actually satan pretending to be god.

+ The true God, is the father of all things, a loving universal god who would never display willing hatred towards any of his creations.

+ The Sadducee High Priests, the religious leaders hide behind white robes and words of holiness, but in fact were evil satanists who practiced black magic and human sacrifice.

+ The way to salvation is through self knowledge and the respect of all knowledge, not the promotion of ritual and ignorance of the double speaking satanists.

+So clearly, the concept of Paul of a cursing God, a God that demands blood sacrifice can only be one entity- the lord of demons- Satan, not a universal God.

+++WWJD? What would Jesus do?+++

Jesus would condemn the concept of original sin as yet another example of the evil and length to which the Sadducee and ancient satanists were prepared to go, to twist things.

He would pray that people could be freed of such cult and destructive beliefs.

He would ask that people cease to claims such ideas in his name, when clearly they quote Paul with such ideas.

Answer 9

Yes we are. It's what makes us human. Can't avoid it. Just spend our whole lives dealing with it. Call it what you want. Believe what you want about where it came from. Whatever it is, at point of conception, it's biologically locked in for life. It's what distinguishes humans from other forms of life -- free will, the ability to make choices and rationalize. Since nobody can be perfect when it comes to reining in things like greed, envy, pride, etc. I guess some people think it's 'original sin' that causes humans to be like they are.

Answer 10

Lets use simple logic in here. What was the alleged "original sin" commited by men (particularly Adam)? It is written in Gen 3:17 and it says:

"And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in toil shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; "

The man and his wife was commanded by God not to eat of the tree which he forbid, which was actually the first commanded that God gave. And this was was also the first law transgressed by the first people created by God.

So let us ask God. God can sin be inherited? God will answer in Ezekiel 18:20

The soul that sinneth, it shall die: the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

It is clear as a crystal that children will not inherit the sin of their father which God himself spoke even before the idea of "original sin" was introduced and had mislead many.

Given these premise, let us also try to establish how the bible define sin, let us site one example in Jame 4:17

To him therefore that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Do children sin? Are they capable of rationally identifying good and evil? In Heb 5:13 St.Paul explained:

For every one that partaketh of milk is without experience of the word of righteousness; for he is a babe.

I personally believe that God is justice and God of compassion and would never want anyone to be damned especially the little ones. 1 Tim 2:4 says:

who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth.

The doctrine of "original sin" is a in a fact a good business and is very evident here in our country. It was taught to us that since children has the so-called "original sin" they need and it is a must that they be baptized. Of course nobody will do such act without you paying them. But this idea is very far from what Jesus Christ had taught in Matthew 10:8

Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons: freely ye received, freely give.

I know my response will not be as sweet as sugar to everyone, but I only believe to what the God of the Bible says.


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