Special Forces and Rangers Role?

Question

From what I read, the Special Forces are more Brain over Brawn(even thought they have a LOT of brawn) as the Rangers are more Brawn over Brain(even thought they have a LOT of brain).

Which are the stealthy spies, and which are the get down and dirty and direct action, clean sweep type thing?

Which train the foreigners and are pretty much rebellion in a can?

What is the Special Forces role, and what is the Rangers role?

Hate to tell ya bro, but theres a difference between Special Forces and Rangers.

;)

Umm. Geniuses, Rangers are not even part of the Special Operations Command they are an elite light infantry. They are two different things!

http://www.goarmy.com/special_forces/index.jsp

http://www.goarmy.com/ranger/

"You say the "special forces" are brain over brawn but then say the Rangers, which are Army special forces, are brawn over brains."

I stated clearly this is what I READ.

Answer 1

Special Forces
Special Forces units perform seven doctrinal missions: Unconventional Warfare, Foreign Internal Defense, Special Reconnaissance, Direct Action, Combatting Terrorism, Counter-proliferation, and Information Operations. These missions make Special Forces Command unique in the U.S. military, because it is employed throughout the three stages of the operational continuum: peacetime, conflict and war.
Special Forces Command’s Unconventional Warfare capabilities provide a viable military option for a variety of operational taskings that are inappropriate or infeasible for conventional forces, making it the U.S. Army’s premier unconventional warfare force.

Rangers
The 75th Ranger Regiment, composed of three Ranger battalions, is the premier light-infantry unit of the United States Army. Headquartered at Fort Benning, Ga., the 75th Ranger Regiment’s mission is to plan and conduct special missions in support of U.S. policy and objectives. The three Ranger battalions that comprise the 75th Ranger Regiment are geographically dispersed. Their locations are:
lst Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Hunter Army Airfield, Ga.
2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Lewis, Wash.
3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.
The Army maintains theRegiment at a high level of readiness. Each battalion can deploy anywhere in the world with 18 hours notice. Because of the importance the Army places on the 75th Ranger Regiment, it must possess a number of capabilities. These capabilities include:
Infiltrating and exfiltrating by land, sea and air
Conducting direct action operations
Conducting raids
Recovery of personnel and special equipment
Conducting conventional or special light-infantry operations
To maintain readiness, Rangers train constantly. Their training encompasses arctic, jungle, desert, and mountain operations, as well as amphibious instruction. The training philosophy of the 75th Ranger Regiment dictates the unit’s’ high state of readiness. The philosophy includes performance-oriented training emphasizing tough standards and a focus on realism and live-fire exercises, while concentrating on the basics and safety. Training at night, during adverse weather, or on difficult terrain multiplies the benefits of training events. Throughout training, Rangers are taught to expect the unexpected.

All officers and enlisted soldiers in the Regiment are four-time volunteers – for the Army, Airborne School, the Ranger Regiment and Ranger School. Those volunteers selected for the 75th Ranger Regiment must meet tough physical, mental and moral criteria. All commissioned officers and combat-arms NCOs must be airborne and Ranger qualified and have demonstrated a proficiency in the duty position for which they are seeking.

Upon assignment to the Regiment, both officers and senior NCOs attend the Ranger Orientation program to integrate them into the Regiment. ROP familiarizes them with Regimental policies, standing operating procedures, the Commander’s intent and Ranger standards. Enlisted soldiers assigned to the Regiment go through the Ranger Indoctrination Program. RIP assesses Rangers on their physical qualifications and indoctrinates basic Regimental standards. Soldiers must pass ROP or RIP to be assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment.

Junior enlisted soldiers who are not Ranger qualified must attend a Pre-Ranger course, which ensures they are administratively, physically and mentally prepared before they attend the U.S. Army Ranger Course. The result of this demanding selection and training process is a Ranger who can lead effectively against enormous mental and physical odds.

Each Ranger battalion is authorized 660 personnel assigned to three rifle companies and a headquarters company.

Ranger battalions are light infantry and have only a few vehicles and crew-served weapons systems. Standard weapon systems of the unit are listed below:
84mm Ranger Antitank Weapons System (RAWS)
60mm Mortars M240B Machine Guns
81mm Mortars Mark 19 RP MM Grenade Launcher
120mm Mortars

Do not know why these kids always shoot from the hip with opinion instead of some good old facts. High Scool would have been easier with the net, don't ya think?

Answer 2

Ok here's the down and dirty guy. The rangers role is to forcefully take and retain an objective, an airfield for example, in extreme force. A sf role, is more of a small task force doing covert and undercover ops. SF also train forieng militaries, and civilians even in guerrilla warfare.
SF guys go through ALOT more training than rangers do, and they train in everything.
Rangers are pretty much advanced infantry, where as SF guys are the elite, best of the best all around soldier, compairable to seals if you will. Hope this helps although taking to some former rangers and sf guys would clarify alot of your questions.

Answer 3

US Army Rangers specialize in airborne, air assault, light infantry and direct action operations, raids, infiltration and exfiltration by air, land or sea, airfield seizure, recovery of personnel and special equipment, and support of general purpose forces (GPF), among other uses. Each Ranger battalion can deploy anywhere in the world within 18 hours' notice.

THeir Motto is "Sua Sponte" (Of Their Own Accord)

Special Forces are trained in small unit tactics and in training indigenous forces to fight unconventional warfare. Special Forces Command has seven active Groups, including two National Guard Groups, the 19th and the 20th.

Their Motto is "De Oppresso Liber" (To Free From Oppression).

Answer 4

Wayne pretty much nailed this one.

One correction: Rangers ARE a part of the Special Operations Community.

And Special Forces ARE also a part of it. You may commonly call them Green Berets but they are the ONLY Special Forces in the US military. SeALs,etc are Special OPERATIONS.

Answer 5

Most, if not all Army SFs go through Ranger school. I don't think you have an understanding of what a Ranger really is.

Answer 6

Special Forces troops ARE Rangers.

Answer 7

No, hate to tell YOU, kid, but you're the wrong one here.

Rangers are special forces, and special forces are rangers.

There's no division of any branch of the military called "special forces."

You say the "special forces" are brain over brawn but then say the Rangers, which are Army special forces, are brawn over brains.

Contradiction? I think so.