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(that is not to say that Catholics are not Christians). Geesh this gets old!

2007-06-14 08:21:41 · 13 answers · asked by Midge 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Paul says : Today I have become your Father in Christ, so what do you make of that and this is the reason we call them Father, It is of the Spirit which you are so fond of saying means everything

2007-06-14 10:05:21 · update #1

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No, the majority of them are not asking for the sake of knowledge, and no, they don't bother to read the answers.

2007-06-14 08:29:03 · answer #1 · answered by SpiritRoaming 7 · 5 1

Pastor Billy says: some times they aren't looking for answers. They regularly ask questions for which they already have an answer whether it be true or not. It's an Evangelical Protestant technique by which the asker uses a load question to preach another point. For example read the following:

Praying to Saints

by Brother André Marie, M.I.C.M.

I’ll never forget sitting at a table outside a café in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, while a Pentecostal street preacher screamed his odd form of Christianity at the passing college students. He had the sort of rhythmic drive that Black Baptist and Pentecostal preachers cultivate, based on repeating one line over again, (e.g., Jesse Jackson’s "I am somebody") then saying a couple of other lines, and finally repeating the "lead line." This man’s lead line was, "Only Jesus can save ya!" (Of course, the line is true. Jesus is the Savior of mankind, so there’s no disagreement there….1 ) But then the preacher worked some anti-Catholic sneers into his rhythm: "Mary can’t save ya!" "St. Joseph can’t save ya!" Then he returned to the main line: "Only Jesus can save ya!"

What was the man’s point? It was a vulgar caricature of Catholic devotion to the saints, the claim that we somehow dethrone the God-Man and replace Him with a pantheon of lesser divinities. Certain Fundamentalist forms of Protestantism tend to seize upon devotion to the saints with a particular spleen (probably because most of these sects view sanctity as impossible, or at least only an external reality).

As with all Catholic doctrine, the Church’s teachings concerning devotion to the saints are divinely taught and Biblically provable. Such is the claim I wish to back up in this article....

addendum: when I read stuff like that posted by zorrro you have to roll your eyes as a Catholic. That someone who claims to once be a Catholic could be duped into accepting an alternate tradition of interpretation seeking to separate the Church from the bible is a very sad thing.

zorrro quotes Matthew... 23:8-12 out of context, for example in his chosen definition the Church no longer has a ministerial priesthood or spiritual teachers yet how come it's okay for many Protestant preachers or elders to use the title doctor? Rabbi is afterall doctor or teacher and the Greek for this would be...doctor such as Dr. Billy Graham or Dr. David Jeremiah. To stay true to zorrro's understanding of these verses of "call no man father" we would also have to reject all teachers called doctor because we are told "call no man rabbi" but of course the verses when in context do not equal what zorrro is explaining.

2007-06-14 16:00:37 · answer #2 · answered by Pastor Billy 5 · 2 0

Due to the fact that these
Christians use the Protestant Old Testament which is lacking 7 entire books 2 (Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus/Sirach, Baruch, I Maccabees, and II Maccabees), 3 chapters of Daniel and 6 chapters of Esther may be one of the reasons they ask catholics so many questions.

For the Sola Scriptura this is too bad .
In the 16th c., Luther removed those books from the canon that lent support to orthodox doctrine, relegating them to an appendix. Removed in this way were books that supported such things as:

prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45),

Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7),

intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14),

and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15).

The lesson, though, is this: relying on the "Bible alone" is a bad idea; we are not to rely solely on Sacred Scripture to understand Christ's message. While Scripture is "given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16-17), it is not sufficient for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness. It is the Church that is the "pillar and ground of Truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)! Jesus did not come to write a book; He came to redeem us, and He founded a Sacramental Church through His apostles to show us the way. It is to them, to the Church Fathers, to the Sacred Deposit of Faith, to the living Church that is guided by the Holy Spirit, and to Scripture that we must prayerfully look.

I think from now on every question regarding Catholic traditions, I am going to be lazy and just copy and paste the above answer......

Your right, this non stopping repeated questions is getting old.

Maybe all Catholics could just leave a website for them to look it up themselves............and their source would be "Catholic.....a Christian faith"

2007-06-14 16:14:05 · answer #3 · answered by cashelmara 7 · 2 0

The real problem is the fact that Cathoolics have only one or two earthly leaders ... the Pope, and their Bishop, while protestants have hundreds of thousands of them ... their local preachers.

Catholics have a God inspired, highly disciplined, and fully developed system of doctrinal consistency and theological scholarship, while protestants can and do get away with believing and teaching just about anything they can "wring" out of the scriptures.

In the end, we have Jesus Christ, and usually, the Holy Trinity, in common. But that's just about it.

No reason to hate. That's for sure. Frustration is more like it.

2007-06-14 15:51:14 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It does get old.

Mostly they hate us out of lack of understanding of our beliefs.

They believe what some preacher that hated Catholics told them and did not research it for themselves.

Odd, because it is us Catholics that have our beliefs written in a book for all to see, there really should be no mis-understanding. (Catechism of the Catholic Church)

Hate only hurts the hater. I feel sorry for any group that hates, I try really hard and pray for strength to not lose my temper with those people.

Peace and God Bless!

2007-06-14 15:37:19 · answer #5 · answered by C 7 · 4 0

Midge,I really don't know....and I am from the fundamentalist camp!......We both name Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and are in agreement on the basic principles of Christian doctrine....most importantly the person,nature and works of Jesus the Christ. And that we are saved by grace through faith in the substitutionary sacrifice of Jesus on the cross and that his shed blood cleanses us of all unrighteousness. If one believes this...they are my brother or sister in the Lord.

I understand that we do not share the same view on many different doctrinal issues....This "particular forum" is not the place to discuss such differences,in my opinion.

Protestants....leave the Catholics alone. We are both Christians.

2007-06-14 15:35:18 · answer #6 · answered by bonsai bobby 7 · 6 1

I think there's some validity in all the answers, I used to be catholic, but Now I'm a christian, I don't hate anyone but try to explain Bible truth to them but let me give you a few scriptual examples where Catholics are not in agreement with the Bible

for instance callin the priest father..................(Matthew 23:8-12) . . .But YOU, do not YOU be called Rabbi, for one is YOUR teacher, whereas all YOU are brothers. 9 Moreover, do not call anyone YOUR father on earth, for one is YOUR Father, the heavenly One. 10 Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ. 11 But the greatest one among YOU must be YOUR minister. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

here Jesus even declaired that there be no clergy "CLASS"

they call peter the 1st pope, how then were the deciples argueing about who was greater at the last supper
(Luke 22:24) 24 However, there also arose a heated dispute among them over which one of them seemed to be greatest.

or that peter was the rock ??
(Ephesians 2:20) . . .and YOU have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone. . .

(1 Peter 2:4) . . .Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God. . .
this is peter speaking

I wish that I could teach all people,, the TRUTH you can email me if you want to know more

2007-06-14 15:49:34 · answer #7 · answered by zorrro857 4 · 1 5

They must read them, because a lot of times they will do an edit with comments meant to make your answer look stupid. Regardless of whether they read our answers, they don't care what we say or respect us as human beings.

2007-06-14 15:31:00 · answer #8 · answered by The Raven † 5 · 6 0

I doubt it very highly,or if they do they don't permit themselves to be affected. Nobody is more rigid in their beliefs than fundies.

2007-06-14 15:46:10 · answer #9 · answered by Galahad 7 · 1 0

Catholics are not Christians.

2007-06-14 16:36:07 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 4

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