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Could it really be that some Christians believe that their current and future behavior has no bearing on their ultimate destination?

Or am I misinterpreting again?

Please, enlighten me.

2007-06-14 07:47:26 · 20 answers · asked by Bright Shadow 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

em.t.space: What form does this "accountability" take?
Are there consequences?

2007-06-14 09:56:32 · update #1

20 answers

Good question.

Judgment day is the "Day of the Lord" when the earth will be burned up(2Peter3:10) and the dead will be raised and the righteous will meet the Lord in the air and the wicked will be condemned.

Resurrection of dead and punishment of wicked and righteous happen on the day of the Lord, the end.
2 Thes 1:7-9 also says that both events-judgment on righteous and wicked will happen on the day of theLord.

Acts 24:15 speaks of one resurrection and 2 groups getting either reward or punishment.

John 5:28-29 says in the hour of his coming the righteous will go to the resurrection of life and the wicked to the resurrection of damnation and all will come out of the grave. One moment and two resurrections are spoken of, not two different events.

1 Cor 15 talks about the coming of the Lord and says the end comes on that day.

Since judgment day is when the good and wicked receive their reward/punishment, no, the fact that Christians believe there will be one doesn't mean their behavior has no bearing. On the contrary, the Bible says those who repent and are baptized must remain faithful til the end (Rev 2:10ff). As a Christian, you can fall away and separate yourself from God (Gal5:4).

If you are honest with yourself and know what the Bible says, it will be no suprise where you will go on judgment day.

I think people who believe in the Calvinistic once saved always saved (security in salvation, etc) doctrine or predestination are more likely to say your current behavior has no bearing on your destination. These are not supported by scripture, however.

Where do you go after you die? If that happens before judgment as it has for many... there is obviously a "waiting place" for both heaven and hell (the final places), Paradise and Hades. Jesus said today you'll be with me in Paradise to the thief on the cross. They didn't go to heaven (the eternal) exactly at that point. Jesus rose again. There is a story about Lazarus being in Hades and wanting just a drop of water to cool him and he wanted to go tell his brothers about the mistakes he made to get there. He wasn't in eternal punsihment yet. We go to the eternal places at the judgment. You could think of it as teh sentencing and the judgment.

On 1000 year reign (premillennialism=false doctrine):
2Peter3:10-can't reign 100 yrs on something that's not there!
1 Cor 15:24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
At the end, the earth will be burned up and Jesus returns the kingdom/church to the Father. The Bible doesn't allow for a 1000 year reign unless you misinterpret Revelation.

2007-06-14 07:51:16 · answer #1 · answered by tcdrtw 4 · 3 1

let me clarify i'm neither pro christian or anti christian. the bible talks about hades or hell by english interpretation (a celestial world below us) that houses departed spirits. the bible also talks about three heavens above us. when a spirit is created it can not be put out therefore it has to go somewhere. that's the concept of heaven and hell (hades). the body is put in the ground and rots returning to earth over time. theoretically there is supposed to be a great white thrown judgment. it's is where the dead are to be raised and face God giving an account of the wrong they have done. if you are rejected by God you are to be thrown into a lake of fire. according to christian theology the only way to escape judgment (because we are all sinners and have fallen short) is excepting the spiritual impartation of jesus the said christ into your innermost being. this is where you are supposedly regenerated by a holy spirit that encompasses the world and actually makes up the physical universe.

personally i'm with the implications of your question. what we do will ultimately give us a bearing of our destination or the good or bad we will get in this world and the world to come after death. i think there is a balance. if we knowingly cause havoc in the world we should expect it back...

2007-06-14 18:08:42 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 1 1

There are two separate judgments. Believers are judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ (Romans 14:10-12). This judgment does not determine salvation, but rather is when believers must give an account of their lives to Christ. Believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5). The things we will likely be judged on is how well we obeyed the Great Commission (Matthew 28:18-20), how victorious we were over sin (Romans 6:1-4), how well we controlled our tongue (James 3:1-9), etc. We will have to give an account for our actions, Romans 14:12 declares, “So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.” Unbelievers are judged at the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15). This judgment does not determine salvation either. Everyone at the Great White Throne is an unbeliever and is therefore already doomed to the lake of fire.

Recommended Resource: Your Eternal Reward by Erwin Lutzer.

2007-06-14 07:52:56 · answer #3 · answered by Freedom 7 · 4 1

I'm not sure I agree with the 'once saved, always saved' crowd, but the Bible is clear that getting into heaven or hell is not dependent on the sum of the good and evil you have done in your life.

Even for Christians, there will be judgment on Judgment Day. When John the Baptist baptised believers with water, he promised him that the day would come when another (Jesus) would do the same with fire. Other scripture leads to the idea that when a Christian reaches heaven, he will be baptized with fire and that all the sin within him will be burned away, and all that will remain is what God wants.

2007-06-14 07:54:23 · answer #4 · answered by wayfaroutthere 7 · 0 2

By Judgment Day, I suspect you mean the time that God judges the world:

Revelation 20:11-13 -- Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.

This occurs at the end of the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ and the saints. And therefore, will be a judgment of NON-Christians. Christians will have already been judged by this time. Christians are judged in this life, at this time, before Jesus' return to the earth:

1 Peter 4:17 -- For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?

So, the judgment day you seem to be referring to is not for Christians.

2007-06-14 20:37:28 · answer #5 · answered by BC 6 · 0 1

Afterlife-Luke sixteen:19-31 you do stay when you die, Jesus gave this parable related to the wealthy guy who replaced into depraved and the adverse guy. Parables are memories Jesus gave so as that folk could could desire to study them to detect their authentic meaning, this has to do with the Afterlife. when you consider that Jesus replaced into resurrected we are able to all be resurrected as nicely. (john 5:28-29, john 11:25) John 5: 24-25 says that the lifeless will hear the Gospel, so that they are nevertheless alive and could have a raffle to take heed to and settle for the gospel in the event that they did no longer mutually as they have been alive interior the flesh. related to Heaven 2 Corinthians 12:2 (a third Heaven?) a million Corinthians 15: 40-40 two talks approximately distinctive stages of bodies, which i've got faith to be distinctive stages of heaven as Paul suggested the third heaven. So once you die you do no longer bypass directly to heaven, yet as interior the myth in Luke, a sort of waiting era and probably for the wealthy guy that replaced into his own hell. yet then we get resurrected and then judged, and then God tells us the place to bypass. possibly to the third heaven, possibly to the 1st or 2nd, actually relies upon on the type you reside your existence right here in the international.

2016-10-07 12:27:33 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Christian or not. Everybody is going to have to give an account of thier life here on earth. How they spent their time, what they did - they have to give an account for their actions.

I think that is what the Judgement Day is for.

2007-06-14 07:51:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Didnt jesus say there r many mansions in my fathers house?perhaps these "christians might not be going to "hell" but as far as the higher planes are concerned i assume there are endless levels to get too isnt it a delight to sit front row for a bob dylan concert as opposed in the bleachers with binoculors...

2007-06-15 00:44:51 · answer #8 · answered by greengrass44444 4 · 2 1

Yes, there is a judgement day, but for believers, it isn't a matter of wheither or not they are going to heaven or hell. They accepted the gift of salvation, then they are going to to be in heaven. It is a time of reflection with God as to how we lived our life (weither good or bad) for Christ. We are held accountable for our actions.

2007-06-14 07:56:40 · answer #9 · answered by em.t.space 2 · 0 2

You can't be 100% sure you are going to heaven until you are there! Just because you say you believe doesn't mean that you are automatically going to heaven. There are things you have to do to show God and Christ that you are worthy of the gift of grace. Just saying you are saved and then continuing to live your life the way you have been, not repenting, thinking everything is going to go your way, isn't going to cut it.

Christ even said:Matt. 7: 21-23:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

So, just because you say you believe in Christ doesn't mean He will accept you into heaven automatically.

2007-06-14 08:00:14 · answer #10 · answered by odd duck 6 · 2 1

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