Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin?

Question

Has anybody heard the phrase used when not referring to gay people?

Haven’t you found that it is usually following by a disgusting slur or gay joke?

Do the people who use this phrase have any clue what the word hypocrisy means?

Have you ever had reason to suspect that ANY who use the phrase actually love the people they are talking about.

Do they not see how much they have in common with the Pharisees when they label people according to their own purity system?

Answer 1

I love you EverMom!!!!!!!!!

Answer 2

Has anybody heard the phrase used when not referring to gay people?

Yes

Haven’t you found that it is usually following by a disgusting slur or gay joke?

No

Do the people who use this phrase have any clue what the word hypocrisy means?

Probably

Have you ever had reason to suspect that ANY who use the phrase actually love the people they are talking about.

Yes... me

Do they not see how much they have in common with the Pharisees when they label people according to their own purity system?

Maybe some... I know a few hypocrites, I also know a few gay people who say they wish they weren't gay

Answer 3

Whether we are gay or not, we are all sinner. That's what the bible says. It is up to you to believe it. That is only an open statement. You have use the word "Pharisees" and have taken upon yourselves as well verse with the bible but yet you don't understand the above question. It is the so call Normal People that hurt the gays in words or physically. And it is the people of no religion or of other faith that question the bible. It's natural.

Answer 4

Matthew 5: 43-48 tells us to love even our enemies.

God has standards...Matthew 7:21-23 You might think you are serving God but he disagrees.

One more point is this When Jesus told us to love one another as he had made a new command. He said all will know that you are "my disciples" if you have love among yourselves.
He was talking to his faithful fellow followers...and saying the others would notice the love they had.

There is also a judging work going on and we separate ourselves from the flock of God. We are either accused or excused by our associations, actions, thoughts, displays.

Answer 5

Yes I have heard the phrase used outside the context of gay issues.

I think people use that phrase so YOU won't think they are judging, when we all know that's what's really going on.

Of course they can't see the similarity with the Pharisees, they have a log in their eye!

Answer 6

This is a common statement!
It has nothing to do with passing judgement on a particular
sector or group in society. It referrs to all inappropriate acts.
"We are all created from the same source of Oneness. we therefore, should love that other part of Oneness which in essance is ourselves as a creation of the Oneness.
Having only a dislike (not hate) for an inappropriate act -
inappropriate being anything that harms another part of oneness...not something judged by man to be a sin as sin
is in the eye of the beholder when it comes as part of a
belief system established by man or his interpertation of it.

Answer 7

We are ALL sinners. I am just as much a sinner as anyone else on the planet. Some people use this catch phrase when talking about certain groups of people, but really, it can apply to everyone and any particular sin you want to pick on.

Answer 8

I'm just shocked how many people believe that the bible is full of anti-gay rag when in fact the original Hebrew and Greek language makes no such claims. Blame King James, kids, not the words of Paul. The people who will argue with me are usually the people who won't study it on their own and blindly follow someones wrong interpretation.

Answer 9

I've heard it and used it when not referring to homosexuals or homosexuality.

I never follow it with a slur or gay joke. My sister-in-law is gay and I sincerely care about her and pray for her. I do not take the sin lightly.

I do love my sister-in-law. I care about the women she gets involved with too. She's had many girlfriends, all nice people with good hearts. But..this in no way justifies the lifestyle or the sin.

I think you should take a look in the mirror...seems to me like you are being the pharisee here...you are certainly making assumptions about people who you believe make assumptions.

Answer 10

As an expression it goes to the heart of much that is evil in the christian religion.

That people can believe that such a pernicious stance is virtuous rather than vitriolic is an exercise in doublethink.

A bigot is a bigot however they dress their language up. And if tolerating religion means tolerating bigots, then lets give up tolerating religion.

Answer 11

It comes from "Saint" Augustine actually - the guy who also honed the Christian concept of "Original Sin."

It's nothing but a way of pretending that one's petty hatred and bigotry is some kind of act of magnanimity. And it's usually applied to gay people today in the connection of insisting that being gay is a "choice." Not the homosexual impulse itself - only the nuttiest of Christian nutbags still try to argue that gay people choose to be attracted to the same sex. But it IS their choice to act on it, and for that they should be pitied that they have so far fallen from grace - that's the idea. Their "sin" is abominable but Jesus still loves them and so should we, although we should try to save them from themselves, etc.

Obviously it's just an excuse for interfering in other people's private affairs. And it's sheer hypocrisy. As a gay guy, "Christians" can spare me the pretense of love and just admit that they hate me based on who I love. Because I'm not going to slink through life denying my own nature just because they think they know what's better for me. They are wrong.