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If we live by grace, why do so many Christians quote from the Old Testament?

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2007-06-14 03:28:29 · 12 answers · asked by Brotherhood 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I looked quickly through some of the other answers. I see there are a few SDA's in the crowd.

Whatever is not of faith (for a Christian) is sin. (Romans 14:23)

The law is not of faith: (Galatians 3:12)

For a Christian then to live by the law is sin; a falling from grace.

The law is what led the Israelites.

The Spirit of God is what leads the Christian.

To claim the Christian needs the law to lead them also is to claim the Spirit of God is insufficient. This is an insult to the Holy Spirit.

The Christian lives by faith, and not that law.

That law was a covenant to which no Christian was ever a part of.

And like any such covenant, the death of either party ends the covenant, even as Paul explains in Romans 7, using the marriage covenant as the example.

Christians die to the law.

Christ, the God who made the covenant with Israel, also died.

You cannot be held to a covenant where you or the other party have died.

Those who quote I John 3:4 need to read the very next verse. They also need to understand what anomia means, and how all other translations treat this passage. It is a translation that slipped into interpretation.

The law can save no one. The law can only condemn. Paul warned Christians in Galatians 4:22-5:1 not to let themselves into being fooled back into that covenant law. He tells them to cast out such who hold to the old covenant law. These people went out and created their own churches.

Believing you have to keep the law also declares a false gospel, where the law is added as something one must do for the sake of salvation. Faith becomes an empty platitude, and the Spirit of the law becomes no law at all.


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2007-06-14 05:33:11 · answer #1 · answered by Hogie 7 · 2 0

I've been a Christian and Bible student for a long time, I didn't know Moses had any "law". When I read my Bible, it says God gave HIS LAW to Moses. Also, found in the Bible are the two covenants (called old and new testaments), which are better understood as First Covenant and Second Covenant.

The First covenant contained the Law, Statutes, and Judgements of God, not Moses. Jesus did not come to abolish the LAW, but to fulfill it by keeping it perfectly. The ceremonial law was done away with because the temple system was abolished. Animal sacrifices are no longer required, or accpted, under the Second covenant.

Living by grace is not license to sin. It's not LAW or GRACE, it's law and grace. Both are necessary, just like a positive and negative charge is required to make a battery work.

As for quoting the "old Testament", what scriptures did Jesus and the apostles quote? Were they wrong?

2007-06-14 04:16:59 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Boy, we are getting some really good questions today!! That question causes so many scriptures to bombard my mind. First off, you're right Christ's Crucifixion bought us believers salvation. So we do live by grace our ultimate destiny is now safely in the hands of God the Father. Jesus himself said nothing can snatch us from his father's hand.

It is healthy to examine the old testament because it has events and stories in there that will help you in a similar situation. Like when you're reading about God's mind boggling miracle where He parted the Red Sea. There were other great miracles as well. Then you read where many Hebrews still turned to other gods. You say to yourself, I'm not gonna forget God's goodness towards me like they did, no way buddy.
That is exactly what the author THE HOLY SPIRIT wants us to say! These scriptures are treasure for a treasure seeker. Even the ten commandments exudes much wisdom that's why Jesus said it is still good. Of course some of the subsequent ordinances that were issued were exclusively for the Jews at that time and we should not confuse those with what's constant.
Hope this helps
God Bless

2007-06-14 04:10:47 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Even when we live by grace all the promises in the Old Testamant are yes and amen in Christ Jesus. All the promises in the whole Bible are available to us so we can quote the promises in the Old Testament and enjoy them as well. We also study the Old Testament for its revelation of Jesus Christ and His work of redemption.

2007-06-14 03:42:41 · answer #4 · answered by seekfind 6 · 0 0

The "Law" the Bible refers to is the Pentitude, first 5 books, not the laws of today that you may be referring to. Christians are instructed to obey the laws of their land to an extent, but we are forgiven through the grace and mercy bought by the death and resurrection of Jesus. The grace is what covers our sins in the eyes of God, so we can enter Heaven.

2016-05-20 01:30:33 · answer #5 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

just because we don't live under the law of moses( we don't sacrifice animals, for example) does not mean that the principles found in the old testament are not good for us now. For example, the old testament has many prophecies that were fulfilled on Jesus Christ. Also, the old testament gives us insight on god's people and where Jesus came from.

2007-06-14 03:33:54 · answer #6 · answered by sweet21 2 · 0 2

Paul was very adamant in Romans that we are no longer bound by the law of Moses.

Yet, we are ruled by the spirit which leads us away from sin.

We will not be stoned for working on the Sabbath, but we do not have a license to sin either.

Life by the spirit - best summarized in the book by Jerry Bridges "Pursuit of Holiness".

2007-06-14 03:39:28 · answer #7 · answered by Christmas Light Guy 7 · 1 0

2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of God may be perfected, thoroughly furnished to every good work.

The Mosaic law is only a small portion of the OT and given specifically to the Jews. It is also a historical record, literature/poetry and prophesy. Its all good....

2007-06-14 03:40:32 · answer #8 · answered by prismcat38 4 · 0 0

We are saved by grace, but are still subject to the law. Sin is the transgression of God's law, which is the Ten Commandments. If we are heirs with the Nation of Isreal, we are also under the law.

2007-06-14 03:40:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I believe in the complete Bible and I live by the Law of Moses and by the modern revelation given to us today.

2007-06-14 03:33:45 · answer #10 · answered by jonathanmt93 2 · 0 2

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