if an idea or theory can be..........?

Question

shown false and self refuting to itself, but it can NOT be proven wrong EMPERICALY. then is it still declared disprovable?

Answer 1

If an idea or theory is false and self-refuting then, it does not matter that it cannot be proved wrong. It proves itself to be incorrect.

The onus is on the creator of an idea or theory to prove it right, not for everyone else to prove it wrong.

This, regretfully, is the trap that conspiracy theorists and "strange worlds" writers fall into constantly. For instance, say someone comes up with the theory that there are little green men living on Mars - I would expect them to provide proof that this was the case, rather than lodge the theory then expect me to disprove it. This is not good science.

Answer 2

Can we prove something is wrong if we don't know everything? If we prove something doesn't exist, non-existance is something. Everything came from that non-existance. Shows how little we know. False is true. It's not semantics, it's real. Only in a limited space and time is it untrue. It can be true. If there is no time then everything is untrue and true. That's just another paradox in life. Life seems to be made of apparent contradictions. Why shouldn't this be just another one to show that nothing is probably something and not something. That leaves room for a lot of flexibility. We can make something and take it apart and make it not what it was and with no time, it never was and always has been. That would explain why the philosophers are confounded. When they think they know they don't and when they think they don't know, they' wrong again. We have to dedide for ourselves based on what we want and the effort going in to this is a waste if we aren't tending to the real business of getting what we want and need, a better world from compassion and not ego, wasted arguing.

Answer 3

1) does not have to be proven wrong. in asking for it to be proven wrong, you have committed the error of shifting the burden. eg, "I believe batteries are male. prove me wrong on that?" you dont have to prove its wrong, to prove it's non-existence.

2) self refuting is worst than self circulating reference. only makes it more wrong.

Answer 4

Cant be disproved straight way, needs more work on that idea or theory.It might be that a missing link can be found.

Answer 5

My dear truth never stands on the base of prove, its by nature can't be altered...... By proving something right or wrong one has to change and consider many variables into constants, he has to compromise on many things, So its not the matter that to prove something wrong or right makes it so, but it is that what U really believe in. . . . . . ......... !

Answer 6

Yes. If it is "shown false" as you mentioned, then it is ruled out as false or 'inconclusive.'