I was holding hands with my boyfriend at a baseball game, when some lady asks us -?

Question

"would you mind not holding hands? I've got my daughters with me." We were on line to buy beer, and we didn't see her daughters. At any rate, my boyfriend didn't say anything. I responded "Yes, I WOULD mind." She just "humphed" and left the line....My question is, why is it that many heteros are so intolerant of gays, bisexuals, that just holding hands is considered offensive? I mean, during the seventh inning stretch, Whataburger Field actually has a "kiss cam" in which couples, when they see themselves on the big screen, are encouraged to lock lips. Yet, two men holding hands is unacceptable.......

I don't understand Nrain, do you mean that societal prejudice is wrong, or are you part of that prejudice by saying two guys holding hands is wrong? And yes, I am referring to Whataburger Field in Corpus Christi. The Hooks rocked last season, and I think they will do well again this time around - let's hope!

Sorry, I meant "Brandon" for the above details.

Elaine, it has to do with the culture of ballparks. Sure, the question wasn't "Why does Woody Williams suck this season?" But neither is the queston in the wrong category.......The "?" could be legitimately posted under any number of categories - but I have chosen to ask my fellow baseball fans a cultural/social question.

Vader, there are many Eastern religions that do not operate using the concept of sin, so you are wrong on that count. One of the Five precepts of Buddhism is to refrain from sexual misconduct, but that has to do with treating someone as a sexual object, rather than a person whose full subjective freedom should be respected. Sex as attachment would also be going against this precept. Holding hands does not. Anyway, there are more flaws in your "argument," but I will not dignify those......To all the others, Thank you for the show of support!
Oh, and I am feeling cranky right now because the 'Stros have a LONG road ahead of them!!!!!!!

iwuball, tolerance is not a two way street, but an intersection of many roads. As for the free speech thing you mention it goes on ad infinitum. Yes, she had the right to say what she did, just as I have the right to respond the way I did. Now where exactly have I displayed intolerance? How Is complaining about intolerance to be considered intolerant?

I have not seen a decent rebuttal to my argument against Vader's assertions.....Simply sophomoric rhetoric. My argument is not a "crock." Vader claims that every religion looks down on homosexuality. I pointed out that this is not true.
I see some rather homophobic responses here, in addition to some more informed, accepting perspectives. You have the right to your opinions. I will not change my innocent behavior (I never take Public displays of affection beyond holding hands, because believe it or not, I actually respect community standards), it seems some of you do not appreciate this concession of mine! I do not deserve to be told to "keep it in private" when all I have done is held hands with my partner. I have that right!!
Yes, you have the right to deem me a "sinner," but I do not acknowledge those arguments, as I am atheist.
I am reminded, when I see such vitriol, of Nietzsche's question, - "Is man one of god's blunders, or is god one of man's?"

I am also glad that things ARE changing.
In Massachusetts, gays can marry. Civil Unions are now the law in Connecticut and Vermont as well. In Canada, Belgium, Spain, and the Netherlands, gays also have full marriage rights. I may have to live with the prejudice now. If I move to San Francisco, I will not feel it NEARLY as much, but you fundamentalists will have to deal with the change in tide when it comes, and it will, that will give gays full marriage rights.

Answer 1

Religion is prob to blame. People with Stong Religious beliefs makes up the majority of our world. These are people raised a certain way and taught certain beliefs. Im sure this woman doesnt want to have to explain to her daughters about homosexuality. Sounds to me like they will be given the wrong idea anyway.
I cant imagine how hard it is to be openly gay. Im str8, but one thing I am not is a bigot. Im telln you, people feel justified by their religion to not like gay people. Im religious, not super religious though, Iv never herd anything in church about gay=evil. That woman prob thinks her daughters will wait to get married befor they have sex, shes prob in for another huge reality check.
Dont sweat people with small closed minds. Dont ever think that one jackass speaks for the rest of us hetro folk.

Answer 2

There's nothing wrong with people of the same sex holding hands, kissing etc. Maybe the woman didn't know how to answer any possible questions that her daughters may ask. No idea how old they were but I'm guessing they were at the age where they would have asked something she maybe didn't have the answer to.

Answer 3

That crap you wrote in response to Vader is the biggest crock of ch!t I have ever heard. Do you actually believe what you just wrote? You seem like an intelligent person. Talk about reaching!

You are living in sin on a daily basis Philip. You and only you can change that.

The lady insulted you and was out of line. She did it out of the care and best interest of her children so get used to it because she won't be the first nor last person to say something to you about it.

This is the life you chose and the road that comes with it.

Answer 4

Don't confuse what looks like support from these answers with those lobbying for 10 points.

If you want to live that life style keep it inside and not in public if you don't want to deal with the reactions of those that don't condone your way of life. It's not going to change nor go away.

What you are doing is not acceptable in the eyes of many deeply religious people.

Gays keep wanting to be accepted as much as normal people don't want to. That's life so deal with it.

Answer 5

ignorance and intolerance. i mean really, it's not like we're going to make them gay, if they are, they are. or maybe the woman is so ignorant, that she really believes that all gay people actually "choose" to be gay.


edit: hey christians, it's not your place to judge, in your own bible's words, so what are you doing... by judging homosexuals and their sexual preference?

Answer 6

The image a man and a confused man that thinks he's a woman is rather disturbing and uneasy to most.

Though the woman was out of line she was simply protecting her children from seeing such sin.

Answer 7

do society a favor and when your out in a public family sector like that, just try to pose as friends. children don't need to see that, they probabally were going to go home and ask mommy questions about why they saw what the saw and that is a tough thing to answer (depending on the childs age) your a strange and shameful individual. keep your shi+ in the closet or gay bars.

Answer 8

Philip first are you are living in sin. That remark you made to Vader's comment is both weak and non supportive. Gays often react to this the same way and have no real come back for it. You are living in serious sin PERIOD! There are no loopholes here Philip.

This is a life that you chose and it goes against the bible which in certain parts of this country is taken very seriously.

The lady that made those comments to you felt strongly about what see saw but was out of line. She did not respect "you" the person regardless of your choice of mate.

I have no problem with you living in sin because you can be prayed for. But, like the lady that saw you, I would not have liked for my kids to see such a thing and removed them from the line not having made any comments to you.

If truly feel sorry for any man or woman that is confused about their sexuality. Good luck with life Philip.

Answer 9

Many view your sexuality as offensive and against God and nature. They dont want their children exposed to that.

I personally dont condone your lifestyle, but I do believe you have the right to live your life the way you want to live.

She was wrong to approach you. She could have gotten in another line.

Answer 10

Philip it did not matter where you were.

In every bible and religion known to man it is a "SIN" to practice same sex relations. It goes against every moral fiber of the bible itself and a lot of deeply religious people can not and will not accept that especially in front of their children.

This argument goes both ways. You say why are heterosexuals to intolerant to gays and bisexuals? Heterosexuals are wondering why sinners/gays are trying to
live like every day heterosexuals when they aren't?

I don't care how many liberals come out of the wood work on this subject. Homosexuality is not normal period.

May God have mercy on your troubled soul Philip.

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Philip you are a direct product of man's imperfection and the sins of a fallen angel. Like it or not it's a sin period. I nor you can change that.

From you picture I could not tell if you were a boy or a girl until I saw the name Philip. Are you flattered by that?

Answer 11

Because people are intolerant losers. Why when the country's at war was gay marriage the biggest thing in the election? You should've started making out if front of her, that would've been funny. Of course, though, you could ask a lot about sporting events and how our culture is. Why are sporting events always used to promote patriotism?