Who's no hitter was better? Mark Buehrle's or Justin Verlander's?

Question

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Good answers on both players so far.

Answer 1

1) The Brewers have been anything but good lately
2) Verlander walked 4 batters - that is not "dominant"
3) The weather was nice outside
4) Buehrle picked off the only runner to get on base
5) US Cellular is a hitters park - Comerica is a pitchers park
6) Verlander is the ace of the club

If you make me answer - I say Buehrle was more impressive because of the above

Answer 2

Pitching a no-hitter takes skill and good fortune and help from your teamates. Unless you viewed both games there is no objective outcome you can make.
Buehrle's was in April. Usually a time when the hitters are still trying to catch up to the pitchers. Verlander's in June when hitters are usually "warmed up".
Buehrle's was against Texas who, at the time, no one knew would be as bad as they are now. Rangers record was 6-8. Brewers were hot but not when they faced the Tigers, although they had just come off a 22 hit performance.
What was and is impressive is how they did not succumb to the pressure. Although Buehrle admitted his knees were shaking in the ninth and in contrast Verlander stated he was so pumped that his adreniline was in overdrive which explains pitching 101 in the ninth.
If I had to pick one over the other?????? Verlander.

Answer 3

Verlander: 112 pitches, 4 BB, 12 K's against the Brewers

Buehrle: 106 pitches, BB, 8 K's against the Rangers

So the rangers suck, but Buehrle threw less pitches and only walked one. For a guy who doesn't K a lot of batter's 8 was a nice number for him.

Verlander ran into a struggling (big-time) Brew-Crew who have never seen him before, and he walked enough guys to give up a run (had they been consecutive - kind of a stupid point i know, but it felt worth noting). Also, I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that Verlander has way better stuff, and is generally more of a threat to throw a no-no than Buerhle is.

I'll go with Buehrle's, because a week before his no-hitter it wasn't uncommon to hear people talk about him like his career was over.

^^How does him throwing 102 make it more impressive? he should throw a no hitter each time out. The fact that Buehrle did it throwing 80 is WAY more impressive.

\/\/ Right, major league hitters like tony graffanino. hilarious.

Answer 4

Verlander because he was facing a way tougher team than Buehrle was. Also, Verlander's was more of his doing than his defense. Buehrle's defense is the reason he got his no hitter but not Verlander. Also, Verlander was still throwing the ball at 102 MPH in the very last inning. that is amazing!

Answer 5

I'd have to say Buehrle's because he only walked one batter, who he then picked off at 1st base. Verlander walked 4. Plus i'm a white sox fan so i'm naturally biased.=]

Answer 6

Verlander's! (without question)

Buerhle's no-no came against the LAST PLACE Texas Rangers, who at THAT point in time were the worst-hitting team in the AL (everyone was slumping, including their SS Young, 1B Teixiera in a big way..). The Rangers don't walk -- and they absolutely swung wildly early in the season, were pressing, and that showed in that game. Buerhle is a very good pitcher, but he didn't overpower the Rangers -- who were getting themselves out, too. Verlander's no-hitter was masterful, and his stuff was absurdly good - complete with a near-100mph fastball, and breaking pitches that were well, unhittable. The FIRST PLACE Brewers right now -- have the #1 and 2 best HR-hitting batters in the NL. Hardy and Fielder are co-MVP candidates, the rest of their team can HIT with any team in baseball.

Answer 7

Wow this is sooooo easy. Justin Verlander easily gets my vote, for putting together one of the most dominating pitching performances i've seen in my life (I'm only 18.) Verlander cruised en route to the first no-no in Comerica Park history by peppering the zone with fastballs reaching 102mph (no exaggeration - just ask JJ Hardy) and breaking off some of the sickest curveballs i've seen. It's really a pleasure to watch a young fireballer like that absolutely take over a game. Mark Buehrle navigated through the Texas lineup with great location and a classic "crafty lefty" type of approach, while Verlander absolutely blew away the Brewers.

A Great example of what i am trying to explain here is the ninth inning. With one out in the ninth, Tony Graffanino stepped to the plate. Despite witnessing the previous hitter (Craig Counsell) strike out swinging on a sick curveball down and in, poor Tony was hopeless striking out on 3 curves. the last of which he (literally) missed by 2 feet. Here's where my point is... The next batter was JJ Hardy, who saw his previous two teammates fall victim to Verlander's wicked curve. The first pitch: A 102mph fastball wispering across the outside corner for a called strike 1. After Ivan Rodriguez threw the ball back to Verlander, you could see Hardy look out towards the mound with absolute terror in his eyes. He KNEW he was completely overmatched. Verlander completely broke his will to hit.

It is really rare to see major league hitters overmatched that badly, just ask Tony Graffanino (he went 0-4 with 4 Strikeouts.)

Answer 8

verlanders was more impressive because he was still throwing 100s in the 9th inning- he more dominant striking people out although he did walk bill hall 3 times but better would be
buehrles because its not everyday you face the minimum 27 batters

Answer 9

Verlander's. The guy hit 102mph in the 9th inning. Talk about being amped up

Answer 10

I'd give Buehrle the nod, simply because he only gave up one walk to Verlander's four, and was much closer to being perfect.

The teams they no-hit - the Brewers and Rangers - have almost identical team batting averages (.259 and .255) so it's tough to argue that one beat a better team than did another. Both did it at home, so neither gets bonus points for doing it on the road.

Both are impressive, and it's cool to see a no-hitter anytime.

For the first answerer above - if the Brewers can hit with any team in baseball, then why are they batting .259 as a team? That makes no sense to me.