A lot depends on just what you want to do with the gun. If you are looking for a target gun, that's one set of criteria. A self defense gun is another and a hunting gun yet another set.
Since Glock does not make a .22 cal. pistol, I won't include that caliber here.
Let's talk plinking and target shooting.
.38 spl or 9mm ammo is cheap and plentiful. You can find a decent, used Glock 17 for a little as $300 if you shop, but closer to $400 would be reasonable. A nice S&W model 10 or 15 would set you back anywhere from $200 to $400.
The Glock 17 is a high capacity 9mm, usually has fixed sights. It is a dependable and fairly accurate gun.
The S&W mdl 10 is a fixed sight, six shot revolver (get the heavy barrel). Been around for 100 years; rock solid and fairly accurate.
For a beginning shooter, either gun is a good choice.
A self defense gun? Lets look at the .357 mag. and the .40 cal.
.357 mag. and 40 cal. ammo is also widely available but at somewhat higher prices.
Good examples of revolvers would be the S&W 586 or 686, the Ruger GP 100. All are either blued or in stainless steel and all have adjustable sights. These are considered medium framed guns. Prices vary from $350 to $450 for a good used one. Colt makes the Python which is an outstanding .357, but will cost about $900 for even a used one. The King Cobra is another fine Colt but again, even a used one is in the $500 plus range. All of these revolvers are high quality weapons featuring both reliability and accuracy.
The Glock .40 cal., models 22 and 23 are high capacity guns. They have an outstanding rep for being both reliable and accurate. They are in the $400 to $550 range.
Hunting handgus. You are pretty much limited to the big, powerful, and very expensive revolvers. My Colt Anaconda, .44 Mag. cost me $800 a couple years ago. It is all I want to shoot. The other big boys are 454 Casull Mag., the .480 Ruger, the 50 AE, and the .500 S&W Mag. There are a couple others in there that don't come to mind as I type this. These guns are expensive, pricey to shoot, heavy, and powerful.
If you are a novice shooter, just learning the game; I would opt for the S&W model 10 revolver with the heavy 4 inch barrel. It is a good gun for the money (buy a used one). If you want a slightly better gun, look for a S&W mdl 15. That gun has adjustable sights. Learning with a revolver, before going to a semi auto, will teach you a lot about grip and trigger control.
Hope all this helps.
2007-06-12 19:51:05
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answered by Anonymous
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Glock vs revolver? Glocks are as safe if not safer than a revolver. A revolver is either loaded or unloaded. Although you could keep some of the chambers open but at some point of pulling the trigger the revolver will go off. The Glock on the other hand can have a loaded magazine but no round in the chamber and you can pull the trigger all day but it will not fire. The Glock can be loaded with a full magazine, then by pulling the slide and loading a round into the chamber the Glock will fire when the trigger is pulled. Just as will any good firearm.
Glocks have more rounds than revolvers. Typically from 10 - 17 rounds depending on which model vs the average 5-8 rounds of the revolver.
Glocks are faster to load and reload than a revolver. As long as you have a a magazine with bullets in it, You simply insert magazine, and pull the slide to the rear, let it go when it reaches it's most rearward point. Do not ride the slide forward with your fingers on it as this may not allow the slide to fully seat the bullet in the chamber and the slide to go completely into battery. To unload the bullets, simply remove magazine (ammuntion feed device), then pull slide to the rear, ejecting the round in the chamber. Then check visually that the re is no magazine in the magazine well and no bullet or case in the barrel. You can either hold the slide open or lock it to the rear with the slide lock to do this. The only time I ride the slide home or ease it closed is when unloading a gun or checking to make sure the gun is unloaded. This allows me to see that the slide is closing and no bullet is loading from the magazine.
The revolver is simpler. With the Glock I change out the bullets in the magazine roughly every week or so and rotate magazines. This keeps the springs from getting a "set" to them. You of course do not have to do this with a revolver. When firing the revolver there is less going on. What I mean by that is a Glock or any semi auto when firing the slide moves backwards ejecting a round then forward feeding a new round. With a revolver, as the trigger is pulled the cylinder rotates but after firing the gun merely recoils. It is a more pleasant feeling for the uninitiated.
The revolver is cheaper. Usually they can be had for $300 on up. A used Glock will be around $400 or more.
If I could only have one I would pick the Glock. Tactically it is a better fighting pistol. With the Glock 20 in 10mm with good cor-bon ammo pushing 200gn bullets at 1250fps, you get power that equates to the old .41 magnum "http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/arch... with 15 rounds in the magazine. And if youare a .357 magnum fan the .357 sig in a Glock will do the same thing. with more ammo!
My personal recommendation would be either the Glock 19 or 23. The 9mm is cheaper to shoot and the recoil is very mild. The .40 is a bigger round and does allow you to purchase an extra barrel to shoot .357 sig! That is the only conversion piece you need.
In a revolver any Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Colt, Taurus, even the Charter arms will make a decent handgun. I would reccomend a .357 magnum. You can still shoot the .38 special load which is much milder and when ready you can shoot the 357. magnum.
2007-06-13 02:48:35
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answered by Maker 4
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Well, I don't know what all these people who say Glocks are dangerous are thinking but there is nothing wrong with a Glock!
with you being a "newbie" to shooting, I must side with the old school crowd in here and recommend a .22 revolver. Once you get the basics down then start moving up in calibers. .22's aren't expensive, ammo is cheap and they are quite common. If you are looking for cheap then .22 is the way to go.
As far as a Glock... Depending on where you live and the market, will run you around $600 for a new one, and Glock doesn't make a .22.
Glocks are safe, easy to shoot, and for someone who regularly shoots a Kimber .45ACP and likes steel guns, it is fairly comfortable to shoot. Glocks are well constructed and very user friendly. My wife has a G23. Any one with minor mechanical skills, anyone could disassemble, and reassemble one in minutes. That would include complete breakdown, not field strip. Cant do that with a revolver.
I would still recommend the .22 revolver to familiarize yourself with the sport/hobby. You can always "cut your teeth" on the .22 and sell it when you are ready and able to move on to a larger caliber.
I don't know about some of you, but a (legal of course) used .22 revolver in good shape for a decent or cheap price is a hard one to pass up.
2007-06-13 05:41:09
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answered by konstipashen 5
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If you are new to handgun shooting, I would go with the 38/357 combo. For practice, the mild kicking .38 special is ideal. You should start with something milder so you won't develop bad shooting habits such as flinching. When you get used to the 38's, you can then move up to the 357's without changing guns. Just make sure you revolver is a .357 magnum and not strictly a 38. The Smith & Wesson 686 with a 4 inch barell is a good all purpose gun. The S&w 640 is better for concealment. After you have gained experience with revolvers, you can later work your way up to 1911 .45 acp's. The 45 is the idea defense caliber and the choice of many law enforcement and military special forces.
2007-06-13 07:12:11
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answered by atomic45acp 1
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If you are new to handguns, you really need to start with a revolver. And you should start with a .22 LR revolver such as the Smith & Wesson M-617.
After you master sight picture, and trigger control with the .22 LR revolver, step up to a medium or medium large frame Double-Action revolver such as a Smith & Wesson Model 15, Model 67, Model 19, Model 66, or Model 686. Start shooting with target wadcutter ammo and after you are accustomed to the blast and recoil of the target loads, step up to full power .38 SPL loads. If the revolver you choose is a .357 Magnum, you can move on to the more powerful magnum loads after accustoming yourself to the full power .38's.
By the time you master double-action and single-action shooting with a .357 Magnum, you will know whether or not you want to move on to an automatic pistol.
Revolvers are more reliable than most automatic pistols of similar price.
Revolvers are generally more accurate out of the box and usually have better sights and smoother triggers.
Revolvers will reliably handle all bullet profiles without the need of expensive gunsmithing. not all automatic pistols will reliably feed all bullet shapes.
Revolvers will reliably shoot any cartridged with enough powder to push the bullet out of the barrel. You can use light loads for target shooting and full power loads for defensive use. Automatics require full power ammo to reliably cycle, that means more recoil and blast.
If spending the same money for a revolver or auto pistol, the revolver is generally of higher quality regarding workmanship, materials, and reliability.
Renegade, I've carried a handgun on my person daily for the last 30 years. If owned some good automatic pistols and some not so good ones. I've owned some good revolvers and some lousy ones. When it comes down to the nitty-gritty the one that is most often in my pocket or sporran is a revolver. To be specific, it is most often a Smith & Wesson Model 640 five-shot .357 Magnum.
Learn to handle a handgun with a revolver and you can become a good shot with any handgun. And I've never known a really good shooter that started with anything other than a .22 LR.
Doc
2007-06-12 19:21:36
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answered by Doc Hudson 7
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The full size Glock model 17 in caliber 9mm Luger is the easiest to shoot and the ammo is real cheap, about $6- $7 / box of 50. The gun can be has for under $500 at Academy Sporting Goods , if there is one in your area., other wise they will cost between $535- $550.
Personally my recommendation would be the full size Glock model 22 in .40 S&W caliber. Ammo is about $10- $12 /50, but I do my own reloading, so I by pass this.
2007-06-13 08:59:53
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answered by WC 7
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Depends on what you intend to do with it.
I've opted for a 9mm S&W MP9C for my carry piece,
If I am hunting hogs I use my Ruger Super Black Hawk in 44 Mag.
For "defense" generally look at a 9mm, 40, or 45 ACP in a Smith, Walther, Kimber, Glock, Taurus Millenium Pro
45 ACP is a show stopper for an auto.
You can get a 500SW in a revolver that looks like a hand cannon.
2007-06-13 04:41:14
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answered by Anonymous
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Consider the following scenario: How safe is a revolver that is ******-and-loaded and accidently dropped??? A Glock, shell-in-chamber, that is accidently dropped will NOT discharge (unless the safety on the trigger itself is depressed which is most unlikely to happen in the scenario I have described).
NOW which is safer, the revolver or the Glock? Simple answer: The Glock is SAFER because it will not fire until you press the trigger. In other words, KEEP YOUR FINGER OUT OF THE TRIGGER GUARD UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO SHOOT. That applies across the board for Glocks, revolvers or ANY firearm.
That said, which is the better choice for a novice handgunner? For pure simplicity, probably the revolver. You don't have to worry about which way the bullets load into the magazine, you don't have to remember to slam the magazine into place, you don't have to remember whether or not there is a shell in the chamber, In a revolver the bullets only go in one way. When all the cylinder holes are filled up, all you have to do is close the cylinder. Now remember to keep your finger out of the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot and DON'T MESS WITH THE HAMMER and you are good to go.
Choices: Now that you've read about safe-handling you can better decided which is better for you, the Glock or the revolver.
Revolver advantages: It is relatively simply to use; it is available in the most powerful of calibers (for our purposes let's restrict consideration to the .357 Magnum in say the modern S & W Model 686); it will shoot the most readily available centerfire pistol/revolver ammo in the USA, the .38 Special or the .357 Magnum; and the 125 grain semi-jacketed hollowpoint .357 Magnum out of a 4" barrel is recognized as the best manstopper yet.
Glock advantages: It is user friendly; it is available in a wide range of calibers (from the universal .9x19mm to the magnum class .10mm to the latest .357 Sig & the new .45 GAP as well as the venerable .45 acp); it is higher capacity than ANY revolver; if your choice is the old .9mm caliber, ammo availability is WORLD-WIDE. Additional advantages: The Glock is available with night sights for around a hundred more dollars. Try to get night sights on any revolver! AND reloading is quicker with the Glock. You don't have to fumble loose bullets or line up a speed loader. With the Glock all you do is slam a fresh magazine into place and rack the slide. Albeit, an experienced revolver man can probably reload his revolver quicker and be ready to continue shooting with six more rounds vs. 15 in a re-loaded Glock.
So, which is right for you, the simple and 'safe' revolver, or the user friendly and also safe Glock? Only you can decide. I own both revolvers and Glocks and for me it comes down to this: A reliable, durable, user-friendly, high capacity, modern, powerful and accurate handgun. My handgun of choice? The Glock Model 20 .10mm with nightsights & high capacity magazines.
Prices: About $600 for a new Glock w/night sights, five without; about four-fifty to five or six hundred (or more) for a good, modern revolver (depending on make, model & caliber).
Good luck.
H
2007-06-12 23:25:12
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answered by H 7
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Doc and Dylan are right. A revolver is the best gun for a beginner. I'd get either a S&W 617 or a S&W 686 revolver. You can use .38 specials in the 686, which are cheap, easy to shoot, and have good stopping power. I own both revolvers and they are maintenance and jam-free.
2007-06-13 00:54:04
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answered by Anonymous
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I'd go with a good form to hand 357mag. Whichever fits best in your hand. I found certain model glocks fit akward in my hand which is a little bigger than most. I've experienced it with several 'great' guns, but if it isn't confortable whats the use?
Just because it is powerful doesn't mean u can't become accurate with practice. A gun isn't supposed to be a toy. Glocks are probably the safest semi-autos because of the safety dual trigger. But if u get a s&w 357mag and become accurate, u could shoot any hand gun.
2007-06-12 19:43:58
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answered by Jerrod 1
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