Do you believe that non-jews only have to follow the 7 Noahide laws?

Question

I have heard this so many times and it is unbelievable how many people actually believe it. First off, Jews were not around til the birth of Judah which happened thousands of years after God created Adam. The Noahide laws say nothing about non-jews giving offerings or sacrifices yet Adam's sons Cain and Abel were doing it and Cain made an offering that displeased God (which is sin). Therefore, he obviously broke a commandment on sacrificing. Plus, in the Prophets it specifically says the Nations will have to come to Jerusalem to participate in the Feast of Booths (another non Noahide law) or it will not rain on their land. In addition, Jews are only descended from the tribe of Judah, while God chosen nation of Israel is 12 tribes which are scattered across the earth. I could list many other errors in the 7 noahide law theory but, if people read the Bible they will see these things.

Mark S. That is a good point and I am glad you see that, but a lot of people do not.

Answer 1

Judaism holds that salvation is possible for all, Jew and gentile alike.

There are seven Noahide commandments, which the Jewish religion understands to be binding on non-Jews. When a non-Jew observes these precepts, he becomes eligible for salvation.

Jewish people, on the other hand, have 613 commandments that they are required to obey.

You asked about Zionism, too. Zionism is the expression of the Jewish nationalism. The activity involved in assuring that the Jewish People have a land of their own once again. The Muslims have 60 countries, while the Jews have one tiny country, and their Islamic neighbors wish to take that away from them too.



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Answer 2

Your statements are mostly erroneous.

- Nowhere does it say that G-d commanded Cain and Abel to bring a sacrifice. And even if G-d did specifically command them, where does it say that that is binding apon all non Jews?

- Again, where does it say that non Jews were mandated to come to Jerusalem for Sukot?

- Also, although the reason Jews are called Jews is because they are largely descended from Judah, nevertheless, the term became synonymous with "children of Israel" or Hebrews, i.e. anyone who is a descendant of the sons of Jacob or a convert to Judaism. Proof of this can be found in Esther, where a Benjaminite is referred to as a Jew.
And to top it off, that is irrelevant to your original point.

If you have heard this so many times, why haven't you made the effort to do some research on the topic?

Answer 3

1) Jews are descended from Abraham. Judah is just one of 12 tribes. The correct term for Jews is Bnei Yisrael- Jew/Hewish/Judaism is just a popular modern term. In top of that- even in the Tanach (what non-Jews call the old testament) the term Yehudi is used in reference to all jews, not just ones from the tribe of Yehudah- an example of this is in the Book of Esther where it refers to Mordechai, the uncle of Esther, the Nasi of the Sanhedrin, as "Ish Yehudi"= a Jewish man, even though he was from the tribe of Benyamin.
2) Adam and his descendants knew about God and worshipped him through sacrifices etc- they had a few commandments they were expected to keep- but these varied from the latter Noahide laws. Idolotary entered the world through Enosh, he was the first to break that commandment, a major reason for the flood.
3) The Noahide laws are called that because they were given to Noah after the flood and were binding on all people that descended from him (in other words everyone)

Answer 4

Prophecy and law are two different things, saying everyone will do something does not make it a law. Cain predated Noah, so there were not even any "Noachide" laws yet, (nor "Jewish" laws, as there were not any Jews yet either). The reason all Jews, even those not descended from Yehuda, are given that name is very similar to the reason that Iranians are all "Persians" even though they do not all come from the Pars province. The people outside used the name in a general sense, and it stuck.

Answer 5

well first off why dose it bother you? Its a Jewish religious belief after all.


Second the Noahide laws are only the bare basics, they are mostly negative commandments. It never says that one can not go above and beyond, only that one should at least do this.

Lastly modern Jews are not only descendant of Judah all 12 tribes are represented as well as many converts.

Answer 6

Yes, I do. You are confused with what nations and communities must do over individuals. For instance, the Noachinde laws do not prohibit Arson, but the community would be punished, as the 'court system' should have prohibited it. Also, when it says "the nations will have to come to Jerusalem" could it be a more messianic time?

Answer 7

there are various commonalities between the Jewish & Muslim faith and for this reason information of one God. The best components of conflict between the two faiths are political basically. Beleif is a guy or woman's precise. Discriminating on those grounds is forbidden in Islam.

Answer 8

I don't know so much about the Jewish religion, but I agree with Mark S.

General Zod is an idiot beyond idiots.

Respect other people's religion.

Answer 9

You are mistaking "following mitzvot" for "having a place in the world to come." Doesn't it make sense that everyone who's a good person should have a place in the world to come?

Keep tryin', though. Sooner or later you'll convince all of us that we're just religious fools I betcha!

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Thanks very much!

Answer 10

no