if peter was the apostle to the jews in jersulaem how did he become the first pope?

Question

Jesus declared he was the rock of the church and that peter was the stone...Later on he was dragged off to rome and executed

Answer 1

Contrary to Catholic apologists, pr agents and spin doctors Peter was never the first Pope of Rome.

++The great lie against Christian history+++

Up until the 4th Century CE, there was not a single Christian sect that ever believed Simon (Peter) the Zealot was ever the founding patriarch of Christianity.

The Orthodox Churches of the East, the first churches always considered James the Just, the brother of Jesus was the first legitimate Patriarch (Pope) until his murder. All the early Christian writers testify to this being the truth.

All the generally accepted writings by Roman Catholics from the period from the death of John, to shortly after Polycarp's martyrdom (100-156 CE), never mention any alleged "bishop of Rome" by name or by title. However, they repeatedly do mention and praise Polycarp.

See: http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/succession/succession_0020.htm

Even Paul of Tarsus himself, the founder of Christianity never ever wrote that Peter was the first Pope, or that Rome was ever one of the key first churches.

+++The apostolic succession of the first Christian churches+++

Now in terms of the beginning of succession amongst the first churches, this is what we know.

+Byzantium (Constantinople)+

48-68 CE first Bishop of Byzantium, Stachys, who was one of 70 in 48 CE by Andrew, one of the 12.

68-71 CE no bishop during the Jewish wars.

+Antioch +

Paul (58 – 62 CE) appointed himself Patriarch (Pope) and Bishop

Evodius was bishop of Antioch until 62-68 AD

68-100? CE no bishop during the Jewish wars and for sometime after.

+Alexandria +

1st bishop Mark 58-68 CE

2nd Bishop Anianus served as Patriarch of Alexandria from 68 to 82 CE

3rd bishop Abilius, of Alexandria.

Unlike any of the other Christian churches, Alexandria seems to be the only church that can lay legitimate claim of apostolic succession.

+Rome+

Linus, Bishop of Rome (c. 58 – 64) – 1st Bishop of Rome, a British prince appointed by Paul. He is recognized by the Roman Catholic Church as the 2nd Bishop appointed by and after Peter.

No effective bishop in Rome for several hundred years during the active hunting and execution of Christians under state law.

+++If not Rome, where was Peter before being arrested?+++

The role of Simon (Peter) the Zealot was clouded in mystery, particularly when one of the key leaders of the rebellion against the Sadducees and Romans in the siege of Jerusalem was Simon (Peter) the Zealot.

We know this thanks to Josephus both a key person in siege negotiations, an eye witness and the only author of texts about the destruction of Jerusalem known to have survived.

See:
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/josephus_wars/josephus_wars_0110.htm

He describes with disgust how in his negotiations with Simon (Peter) the Zealot, he refused to listen to his offerings and showed a great personal hate towards Josephus personally. How Josephus knew Simon Peter is never properly explained.

However, Josephus writes with great joy how Simon (Peter) the Zealot was captured by the Romans and then taken to Rome.

Given the odds of two Simon (Peter) the Zealots being in existence around the same time, it can be pretty certain that this leader of the rebels is the same alleged first pope.
Why then does the Catholic Church try to support such a fabrication of Simon Peter being the first Pope?

+++The real founder of Christianity+++

It turns out that Jesus founded the Nazarenes also known as the gnostics.
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/nazarenes/nazarenes_0010.htm

The Vatican has known for almost 2000 years that it was Paul of Tarsus, not Jesus who founded christianity.
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/founders_christianity/founders_christianity_0010.htm

I leave it up to you and your readers to decide the truth.

Answer 2

For information on the life of Peter after the death of Jesus, see this article from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter#After_the_death_of_Jesus

You'll see that this fairly neutral source contradicts some of the opinions here. Please be advised not to listen to everything you hear but to consider the source.

That Peter was previously married, the Catholic Church does not reject. There was even a legend about his daughter being a saint too. Catholic Tradition, however, does claim that Peter embraced a state of celibacy for the sake of the Kingdom.

I live in Rome, and took a course in history. It is a fact that Peter came to Rome (and we are not talking about Simon the Zealot, but Simon Peter son of John). He was martyred around the year 64 AD in the Circus of Nero (site of the present day Vatican... I have seen the old necropolis). There are plenty of testimonies to the fact that Peter did come to Rome (see the wikipedia article) and plenty of these are before the time of Constantine.

Of course, one must distinguish Peter as the first bishop of Rome and the later development of the papacy. Obviously as the first bishop of Rome one would not expect him to walk into the Lateran Palace (home of the Popes in the Middle Ages) or into St. Peter's since these were not built. Nor should one expect that his role as bishop of Rome would be the same as the later developed role of the papacy (which did get exaggerated due to polemics and politics - even Ratzinger admits this in his book "Introduction to Christianity" -, but which is now a point of discussion between Catholic and Orthodox authorities for finding a way to bring about communion).

Peace

Answer 3

I don't really believe the idea that can be given that the church was highly structured originally. However, when Peter recognised Christ as Messiah and Son of God, Jesus may have been saying that Peter would be the key leader in the church early on in His well-known response. Peter spoke after the Acts 2 coming of the Holy Spirit to the Pentecost festival crowd. And he remained a leader in Jerusalem for at least circa 15 years as Paul talks about him in the letter to the Galatians.Tradition says he went to Rome and died a martyr's death there in Nero's reign (60s AD, I think).

Jesus may have been having a little fun with Peter and the disciples, using puns. "Upon this rock I will build my church". Peter's name means rock (Cephas).
However other apostles were also important - James - Jesus' brother, John, Paul. It was a team effort.

Answer 4

and Peter stated all believers had been dwelling rocks beign developed up right into a holy temple in his letter that is in general doesnt make for a brief reply... curiously the Greek Orthodox church lines its bishops again to the pinnacle of the Jerusalem church and PEter via historical past the bishop of Jerusalem used to be regarded on as a leader amongst equals... then later the concept used to be considered within the consensus of the elders... then later within the pope a protestant reformed individuals make an foremost factor that might be that the foremost factor isn't simply the chain of management however that the reality of the gospel and the scriptures is handed down. Through the a long time there is also a series of management to Peter however the gospel isn't always naturally taught in church buildings claiming to beunder Peter;s headship

Answer 5

He didn't. Peter was a Jew (an Israelite) physically and spiritually. As a matter of fact, a major concern of the Roman Council of Laodicea was to not "Judaize" Christianity. The Romans hated the Jews. So, how can this be if the pope were a descendant of Peter (a Jew) in ANY way?

Peter deeply loved Jesus. He was "prince" of the Apostles. The Apostle's task is to preach the Gospel. So his purpose was to "feed" Christ's "sheep". This means in other words to bring the Gospel to the children of God. In this way we (spiritual Israelites and "sheep")nurse on the "milk" of the Word 1Peter 2:2. The church referred to here is obviously the "spiritual" church. Not a local physical structure in which man or the elements could easily corrupt as is done so often.

Jesus gave a spiritual fulfillment of man's limited physical understanding of the word of God. The gates of hell will not prevail against the virgin bride (church) of Christ. This is the spiritual church of Jesus referred to in the scriptures. One of which Jesus is husband to. Not the pope.

Answer 6

Peter was in Rome for many years before he was crucified

Answer 7

Peter was the 1st Pope even when he was in Jerusalem and then Antioch and then Rome. The Pope is the Bishop of Rome but he does not to live in Rome all the time(like Avignon Popes)

Answer 8

Actually Simon Magus was the first chief bishop of Rome. The "fathers" renamed him "Peter" and re-wrote history.

It was Paul who went to Rome.

Answer 9

John 21:15-17 states:

When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs."

He then said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep."

He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." (Jesus) said to him, "Feed my sheep.

Matthew 16:17-19 states:

Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

The Catholic Church believes the Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.

The Pope is the senior pastor of 1.1 billion Catholics, the direct successor of Simon Peter.

The Pope’s main roles include teaching, sanctifying, and governing.

With love in Christ.

Answer 10

He wasn't the first Pope.

The Rock was Peter's statement of faith, Peter was just a pebble.

Pastor Art