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Peter (whom the Catholic church claims was the 1st Pope) was Jewish, not Catholic. Simon Peter had a wife (the Catholic Popes do not, they profess celibacy), “And when Jesus was come into Peter’s house, he saw his wife’s mother laid, and sick of a fever”. - Matt. 8:14, also read Mark 1:30 and Luke 4:38. The qualifications for a Bishop in the Word (the Bible) is: “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach.” - 1 Tim. 3:2. Peter's name means “stone”, not “rock”. When Andrew brought Simon Peter to Jesus, Jesus beheld him and said:... “Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.” - John 1:42. Simon Peter was the “stone” and Jesus IS the “Rock”. Peter was never in Rome, he was the Apostle or teacher to the Jews in Jerusalem. Rome is in Italy, not Jerusalem. It was in Jerusalem where Jesus first began the body of Christ (Spiritual body, not a physical one), the Christian church, not a building made with hands, but hearts filled with love, for the church is the people, the believers in Christ.

2007-06-12 10:57:59 · 13 answers · asked by Jason Bourne 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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2007-06-12 13:45:36 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

"Peter (whom the Catholic church claims was the 1st Pope) was Jewish, not Catholic."

A: Peter was Christian - a follower of Christ, as were all the Apostles, and since the Catholic Church was the only Christian Church for 1,000 years after Christ, Peter was therefore Catholic.

"Simon Peter had a wife (the Catholic Popes do not, they profess celibacy), “And when Jesus was come into Peter’s house, he saw his wife’s mother laid, and sick of a fever”. -

A: So what? Celibacy isn't a doctrinal teaching. It's just a current rule. Doesn't the Church have the right to make rules governing its own clergy?? Besides, the fact that Peter had a mother-in-law simply shows that he had been married at some point previously.

"Matt. 8:14, also read Mark 1:30 and Luke 4:38. The qualifications for a Bishop in the Word (the Bible) is: “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach.” - 1 Tim. 3:2.

A: So your simplistic personal interpretation of this passage is that bishops must be married! Another example of how far off the track a person can drift once removed from authoritative teaching. This passage is a proscription against polygamy! Not a command to marry!

"Peter's name means “stone”, not “rock”. When Andrew brought Simon Peter to Jesus, Jesus beheld him and said:... “Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.” - John 1:42.

A: Andrew didn't bring Simon Peter to Jesus. Andrew brought SIMON to Jesus. That was the Apostle's name. It was Jesus who assigned the name "Peter", meaning "Rock", and in the SAME SENTENCE told Simon that He was the Rock upon which Christ would build His Church.

"Simon Peter was the “stone” and Jesus IS the “Rock”.

A: Yes, Jesus is indeed the Rock - which is why it is so profoundly significant that Jesus used the SAME term in appointing His personal Vicar, the one who was to stand in His place as visible head of His Church!

"Peter was never in Rome, he was the Apostle or teacher to the Jews in Jerusalem. Rome is in Italy, not Jerusalem."

A: Really! Curious then that Simon Peter writes "I send you greetings as do the other brethren in Babylon". Babylon, in case you didn't know, was a coded word for Rome. It has no other meaning in Scripture.

"It was in Jerusalem where Jesus first began the body of Christ (Spiritual body, not a physical one), the Christian church, not a building made with hands, but hearts filled with love, for the church is the people, the believers in Christ. "

A: Amen! First thing you have said right! But you neglected to say that this Christian Church was ONE in belief, ONE in worship, and had NO denominations. It still is!

2007-06-12 11:11:28 · answer #2 · answered by PaulCyp 7 · 1 0

No..the Catholic Church is built by He who is the "Way the Truth and the Life".

So....no it was not built on lies...

The claims in the question are not rooted in reality...I see others are already answering them I would refer all to

Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church

Praised be Jesus Christ!

PS: I invite all to read the links below. The Church does not go against Sacred Scripture (the Bible) but rather even put together the very canon (list of books) of the Bible. --How else would anyone know what books go into the New Testament? (what? go to Barnes and Noble?) This was decided long --back in the 300's. We love the Bible!


Also I am afraid some of the comments above are simply misinformed as to what is really Catholic. We do not adore Mary etc...and Catholic teachings are found in the Bible....see www.catholic.com

Oh and ...where on earth did the writer get that idea about a Pope Victor persecuting the Christians in the second century? Pretty much ALL the early Popes were Martyred under the Roman Empire! They were busy dieing for Christ not hunting down fellow Christians.--Their source is up very off base ...so far off that they are in a whole other ballpark.

2007-06-12 11:41:02 · answer #3 · answered by Tertiary3 2 · 1 0

It is seldom realized, but something the Catholic Church admits to -- the Catholic Church's beliefs are NOT based upon the Bible. There are many more biblical teachings that the Catholic Church rejects or claims it has the right to change. They don't teach the same Jesus, so you could say they fall within the group of people who Jesus and Paul taught were teachers of "another Christ which was not preached."

All those who have been loyal to the teachings of Christ and the Bible, have been persecuted by the Church of Rome, since about the time of Victor I, bishop of Rome (c. A.D. 189-198).

So, if the Word of God, the Bible, is the Word of Truth (which I believe it is), then yes, the Catholic Church is built on lies.

Though some say that the Catholic Church was the only Christian Church, the Bible and history prove otherwise. There have always been true and apostate variants of the Church of Christ; the Church at Rome is merely the largest apostate group.

2007-06-12 11:34:12 · answer #4 · answered by BC 6 · 0 1

The other Atheists on this site have said they didn't mind the Catholics as much as the other religions but, you are certainly the fly in the ointment aren't you?

Simon Peter was a Jew as Jesus himself was Jewish. Why do you profess to be such an expert on Jesus' Church when it is obvious you do not know her.

Linedancer and BC: You are both greatly misled. BC --Catholics wrote the Bible who are you trying to kid.

2007-06-12 11:09:45 · answer #5 · answered by Midge 7 · 0 0

The Roman Catholic Church contends that its origin is the death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ in approximately 30 A.D. The Catholic Church proclaims itself to be the Church that Jesus Christ died for, the Church that was established and built by the Apostles. Is that the true origin of the Catholic Church? On the contrary. Even a cursory reading of the New Testament will reveal that the Catholic Church does not have its origin in the teachings of Jesus, or His apostles. In the New Testament, there is no mention of the papacy, worship / adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in Heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture.

2007-06-12 11:25:10 · answer #6 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 0 1

you do no longer seem to have a commanding know-how of the two indulgences or relics: INDULGENCE - "The remission before God of the temporal punishment by using sins forgiven so some distance as their guilt is in contact, which the follower of Christ with the right inclinations and decrease than specific desperate circumstances acquires for the period of the intervention of the Church, which, as minister of the redemption, authoritatively dispenses and applies the treasury of the delight gained by capacity of Christ and the saints" (Pope Paul VI, Apostolic shape on Indulgences). As initially understood, an indulgence replaced right into a mitigation of the intense canonical penances imposed on the honest for grave sins. The term "indulgence" remained, notwithstanding, even after those intense outcomes have been discontinued. yet till the 2nd Vatican Council, the norm for figuring out the effectiveness of an indulgenced prepare replaced into its relationship to the classic canonical penances, as considered interior the numbers, maximum of years or maximum of days, related to each genuine itemizing of partial indulgences. All this replaced by capacity of Pope Paul VI. from now on the degree of ways efficacious an indulgenced paintings is relies upon on 2 issues: The supernatural charity with which the indulgenced job is finished, and the perfection of the job itself. yet another innovation is that partial and plenary indulgences can continually be utilized to the lifeless by capacity of way of suffrage, asking God to remit their sufferings in the event that they're nevertheless in purgatory. RELIC - An merchandise related with a saint, e.g., area of the physique or clothing or something the guy ahd used or touched. genuine relics are commemorated with the Church's heat approbation. they could no longer be offered or bought. those of a martyr are placed interior the altar stone on the consecration of an altar. Relics are of three instructions: the 1st is an element of the saint's physique and is the style placed interior the altar stone; the 2nd i area of the clothing or something used for the period of the saint's existence; and the third is the different merchandise, jointly with a sprint fabric, that has been touched to a dazzling relic. (Etym. Latin religuiae, maintains to be.)

2016-10-07 09:27:59 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

The Catholic Church does not claim that Peter was celibate.

+ Celibacy +

The celibate clergy did not come into full bloom until about 1000 A.D. There were many married priests, bishops, and popes before this time.

Priests, religious brothers and religious sisters (nuns) as part of their vocation choose not to marry following:
+ The practice recommended in the Bible
+ The example of Jesus Christ, John the Baptist, and the Apostle Paul.

+++ Scripture +++

In Matthew 19:12, Jesus says, "Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it."

In Matthew 19:29, Jesus says, "And everyone who has given up houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive a hundred times more, and will inherit eternal life."

Matthew 22:30 - Jesus explains, "At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven."

In 1 Corinthians 7:1, Paul writes, "It is a good thing for a man not to touch a woman."

Then in 1 Corinthians 7:7, Paul says, "Indeed, I wish everyone to be as I am."

In 1 Corinthians 7:27, Paul writes, "Are you free of a wife? Then do not look for a wife."

In 1 Corinthians 7:32-33, Paul teaches, "I should like you to be free of anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife." And in verse 38, "So then, the one who marries his virgin does well; the one who does not marry her will do better."

Paul recommends celibacy for full time ministers in the Church so that they are able to focus entirely upon God and building up His kingdom. He “who refrains from marriage will do better.”

See also 1 Timothy 5:9-12, 2 Timothy 2:3-4, Revevation 14:4, Isaiah 56:3-7, and Jeremiah 16:1-4.

+++ Scriptural Examples +++

Biblical role models of a celibate clergy came from John the Baptist, Jesus, and the Apostle Paul.

John the Baptist and Jesus are both believed to have been celibate for their entire lives. Some scholars believe that the example of the Essenes influenced either or both Jesus and John the Baptist in their celibacy.

WWJD? What would Jesus do? Jesus did not marry.

The Apostle Paul is explicit about his celibacy (see 1 Cor. 7). There is also evidence in the gospel of Matthew for the practice of celibacy among at least some early Christians, in the famous passage about becoming “eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 19:12).

The concept took many twists and turns over the years and will probably take a few more before Christ returns in glory.

A priest is "married" to the Church. Some people think that a priest who takes his duties seriously cannot take proper care of a wife and family. "A man cannot serve two masters."

+ The Pope +

John 21:15-17 states:

When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs."

He then said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep."

He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." (Jesus) said to him, "Feed my sheep.

Matthew 16:17-19 states:

Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

The Catholic Church believes the Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.

The Pope is the senior pastor of 1.1 billion Catholics, the direct successor of Simon Peter.

The Pope’s main roles include teaching, sanctifying, and governing.

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art9p4.htm#880

With love in Christ.

2007-06-12 17:34:19 · answer #8 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1 0

yes it is...first of all...u do not worship or pray to marry..but to Jesus...He died for our sins, sits on the right hand side of god...He willingly and freely made this choice...Mary did not have a choice to have the sun of god but gwas chosen ...it was not done willingly or freely...second of all, u dont need a mediator such as a pope to confess ur sins to so he can pray to god for u...but u go thru Jesus and pray in the name of Jesus and god the father will hear you...it is written no one goes to the father without going thru the son...

2007-06-12 11:06:39 · answer #9 · answered by the voice of truth 2 · 2 1

while studying the history of religion (all of them including evolutionism) for the past 25 years, I realized that all religions, even YHWH's chosen people in the OT were led by imperfect people who made mistakes. Therefore, even though many of the RC beliefs have their roots in un-Biblical pagan religious practices; if they were to turn around now and shun all of those pagan rooted practices, they could be approved by YHWH.
It is one thing to sin
It is quite another thing to continue in that sin
but it is not beneficial to focus on those who are sinning, rather we should focus on worshipping YHWH in the same way His only-begotten son Yhshua did and taught us to; in truth.
Yhshua prayed to his God and Father YHWH and he told us we must pray to YHWH and we must petition YHWH in prayer in Yhshua's name because Yhshua is the mediator between us and God. But we must pray to YHWH/Jehovah the way that Yhshua/Jesus did because Yhshua was sent by YHWH as an example for us. Do not ignore or try to replace the God that Yhshua/Jesus serves. Pray to YHWH/Jehovah and cleanse your worship from all pagan tainting. Focus on doing the positive. Do not judge.

agape!

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2007-06-12 11:02:01 · answer #10 · answered by seeker 3 · 2 2

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