most so called followers of Jesus Christ say that Baptism is not nessary for salvation.that just beleaving in the on the name of Jesus Christ is enouf.Jesus says"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;he that believeth not shall be damed"mark16:16.Jesus answered,verily,verily i say unto thee,except a man be born of water and of the spirit,he cannot enter into the Kindom of God"john3:5.Jesus just said all must be born of water to be saved." he that believeth not shall be damned." "Then peter said unto them,repent and be baptized every one of you IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS,and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost"acts2:38.it is simple,unless the name of Jesus Christ is called at baptism,there is no remission for sins.there is only one name by wich man can be saved,it's not the titles Father,son Holy Ghost.It is Jesus Christ !the thief on the cross died under the law.the law was not forfilled untill Jesus said it is finished.
2007-06-12
09:52:12
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why so many so called followers of Jesus Christ,call Him Lord,Lord and do/believe not all that he commands is sad.all that do not all that he commands are damned.you must be baptized in The NAME OF JESUS CHRIST to be saved and have remission of sins.you say you dont believe?well then JESUS CHRIST THE ONE GOD says you are damned ! PEACE.
2007-06-12
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Well said, unfortunately many denominations ignore these verses entirely. There is no salvation without Baptism. Baptism is immersion in EVERY example in the New Testament. How so many choose to ignore these facts is beyond my comprehension.
"The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:" 1 Peter 3:21
2007-06-12 10:01:15
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answered by TG 4
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Baptism and the Reception of Converts
In the last issue of Orthodox Tradition for 1996, you quoted St. Nicodemos the Hagiorite from The Rudder, in which this Saint of the universal Church points out that we Orthodox do not accept the Baptisms of Roman Catholics.... What about theologians like Thomas Hopko and Georges Florovsky, who argue that we accept, as Orthodox, Sacraments outside Orthodoxy? Just out of curiosity, did the writer, a convert to the Orthodox Church from Roman Catholicism who asked you to name just one Orthodox source for your correct practice of baptizing converts, follow your ad-vice and receive Orthodox baptism, on seeing what St. Nicodemos had to say about Roman Catholic baptisms? (J.K., MA)
To begin by satisfying your curiosity, the writer of the question which you cite made a similar inquiry in the past. His motivations are apparently not entirely upright, since he used our response, at that time, to demonstrate that we are "hateful fanatics." No doubt he will use our more recent answer to make similar accusations. Whatever the case, he has provided us with useful opportunities to address an important and much misunderstood subject. The issue at hand is, of course, not one of bigotry, but of canonical exactitude. We do not deny that, by "economy," the Church can endow empty heterodox sacraments with the Grace of the Orthodox Mysteries—and in describing heterodox sacraments as "empty," we are here speaking theologically and objectively and without any sense of disrespect for heterodox Christians and their practices. But this movement away from canonical exactitude should be only rarely applied, and then primarily in instances where the heterodox ritual of baptism is performed in the name of the Holy Trinity by threefold immersion: a circumstance which does not, in fact, apply to baptism as it is presently performed by the Latins. Our argument is with whole church congregations—including, in one jurisdiction, almost all of its Bishops—where reception by "economy" (by a confession of Faith, not simple confession, as some incorrectly think; or Chrismation, which is not, as others also wrongly argue, the Orthodox counterpart of Latin "Confirmation") has become the norm and Baptism, the canonical means of reception into Orthodoxy, the exception. The spiritual consequences of such a situation are ominous, indeed.
2007-06-12 17:06:55
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answered by Jacob Dahlen 3
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Wait a second. What about the thief on the cross, he never had a chance to be baptized, and Jesus told him he would be with him in paradise, so I don't understand that part of your argument. Christ wants our heart. Many people never get a chance to be baptized, they die right after receiving the Lord, what about them?
2007-06-12 16:59:46
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answered by Anonymous
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Oh stop taking verses out of context already. No action we can do will save us except for the choice to have faith in God's word. Baptism is an ordinance, not a requirement. Try actually reading your Bible for once.
2007-06-12 16:55:19
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answered by Drake the Deist 2
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Yes we must be baptized. When the Apostles were outside standing on the veranda of the upper room speaking in tongues on Pentecost those that heard and were cut to the quick asked what they must do and the Apostles answered "REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED"
2007-06-12 17:13:48
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answered by Midge 7
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I was born in a sack of amniotic fluid does that count? When I was baptized I felt the holy spirit, We only take communion to repent for our sins I haven't done that in years, but it was the blood of Christ that washed my sins away.
2007-06-12 16:58:39
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answered by Anonymous
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You are wrong. MOST followers do not say that - most of us believe that it is necessary You are just hearing the feel good religions speaking the loudest, that's all.
You know, say this little prayer and poof! you're saved...
2007-06-12 16:56:41
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answered by SpiritRoaming 7
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Becoming a Christian is about surrending your will to God and repenting of your sin.
Baptism merely demonstrates what you have done. God says to do it but salvation is in the surrender.
2007-06-12 16:59:21
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answered by fanofchan 6
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Form more important than function, you'd make a good Pharisee. A number of other people here would, too.
2007-06-12 17:03:35
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answered by ccrider 7
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Don't use writing to preach to strangers until you learn to spell. Education precedes credibility.
2007-06-12 16:56:00
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answered by Buying is Voting 7
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