Evolution by chance?

Question

An egg is so designed that it does not easily fall from a ledge.( This is to illistrate my point.) If the egg has evolved over millions of years to its present form, evolution is capable of design through trial and error. It is therefore creating an end product by continual design improvement. With or without a creator we have intelligent design evolving and improving from the begining.
My opinion is that evolution has reached the end product as far as man is concerned with the help of our creator, the intelligent designer God who is now aware that his work is soon to end. What do you think?

Answer 1

That evolution is a lie and that God created us already human.

Answer 2

An egg is not so designed that it does not easily fall from a ledge!! If it had been it would have been square with flat sides so that it doesn't roll around at all, would fit neatly into the box and stack better!!!!! If that shape was designed by an intelligent being, he was a lousy designer.

But eggs aren't square because the chicken would have been damned upset and would have told the Rooster - "You keep away from me boy! Never again! You hear me? No way, not even for chicken feed."

Eggs are egg shaped because that was a successful shape. Easy to form, easy to lay, easy to sit on and a good strong shape.
Pyramid eggs? Nah. Torpedo eggs? Hmm, easy to get out, but they do roll of the shelf easily... Dodecahedron? Too complicated.

Look. Evolution is basically what works. If it works it is more likely to survive and reproduce. If I remember correctly, this is roughly what Richard Dawkins called 'designoid'. Read his book "Climbing Mount Improbable".

On what basis do you form your opinion that man is now the end product? Are we immune to disease? Have we the calculating capacity of a computer or the wisdom of a god? Is there nothing that can be improved in the human form?

If your creator designed us, why are we not perfect? If he designed the egg, why doesn't it have an "eat by" date on it and a slogan saying "Help the environment - please recycle this shell through your compost heap. Thank you and best wishes God."

Answer 3

How can you look around you and think that mankind has reached the end of his evolution???
We are little more than animals.
We only use a fraction of our brains potential.
The Creator created the universe for a reason, not just as pretty lights in the sky.
I think we have a long way to go yet.
It could happen quickly; but not while we are murdering and abusing each other.
Or while we are quite happy to let billions suffer though starvation, lack of water, medicines, or through war and poverty.

The potential for us to move onto the next stage of our development is there, but until we as a race can break out of this cycle of violence, greed and a I'm alright Jack attitude, then we will be held back and may kill ourselves off before we have a chance to develop further.

Answer 4

You are mostly correct, in that evolution pretty much goes with what works, and that all things are improving (the bases being improve/adapt or die).
Were I disagree is that Humans are now the end product of our evolution. If this is so, then its a depressing thought. Humans have room for expansion. Brain power being, in my opinion, the most intreaging. At the moment, our brain power has evolved to the point were we can build vast empires, travel across wide oceans, talk to people on the opposite side of the planet, and achieve space flight. But this is in no way our limit. Our mind as well as our bodies will continue to evolve and improve.

Answer 5

You went from scientifically supported theory to complete guess. You approached evolution in a very intelligent way and even know that "With or without a creator we have intelligent design evolving and improving from the beginning." But what makes you think there is a God? there is no science yet discovered to support that.

Answer 6

I think that it is your opinion only.

Evolution is not an intelligent designing force. It is just force that makes things appear designed.

There is no reason to believe that there is an intelligence behind it. To assume that there is begs the questions of why and where did that intelligence come from. Unless you have verifiable answers to these then you are creating fantasies out of pure speculation.

Edit: How do you know that the dinosaurs did not think that they were the end-point too?

Answer 7

Greetings with love

There are new religious school of thoughts quite similar like your thoughts nowadays and there is even a muslim denomination which believes in that.

But the question to your question is

do you think god, the most intelligent designer, needs to try millions of years before achieving man?

do you think it is wise to claim that god has gone through trial and error?

if so, can god commit errors?

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Answer 8

God is a figment of the weak minded fools of the world who are desperate to believe that there is some supreme being taking care of them and everything in the universe.
God must be great if he can use his will to usher 250 evil sinners on a aircraft before willing the aircraft to slam into the ground at 300MPH
People need to actually think about the world instead of relying on brainwashed faith.
Things like evolution happen by the survival of the fittest rule.
It dictates only the best variants of any plant or animal will survive and has nothing to do with this fictional god that stupid people need to believe in to survive.

Answer 9

So, em... what's your point?
Trial and error is not like that. Organism are evolved to be adapted to the envirnment it's in. The bad product just die or get eaten. Eventually, same species of surviving organisms reproduce, carry the advantageous trait to their offspring. So, it is all chance at first, but grew more and more organized at the end.
As for the end product, it is not possible, since the predaters are evolving to catch more pray, and prays are evolving to avoid more predater. So, basicly, it's a never ending cycle. Got it?

Answer 10

I think you have an irrational agenda that makes me want to vomit. Talk about sheer nonsense, how dare you try to manipulate people through circular logic and general b.s. into believing the biggest lie that MANKIND has ever produced, namely creationism? If you find science so abhorrent, then why don't you just quit using modern medicine and quit vaccinating your children and let your silly lie of a god decide whether any of you will live or die? Rational thinking will always triumph over stupid, archaic dogma.

Answer 11

I think a lot of round eggs probably fell off ledges until the birds that laid them just stopped passing on those genes.

Edit: come to think of it, some creatures may have had round eggs of sufficient shell thickness that they survived falls or perhaps some have round eggs today that previously had round eggs with thinner shells. We don't always know the path that evolution took.