At a Southern Baptist convention, One said, "Two dire threats: the deadly marriage of Islam & fascism, and a

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new militant atheism growing in the West.

Saying, "Islamo-fascism is evil incarnate...Islamists are very different. We (Christians) will die for what we believe. They will kill for what they believe."

One of the Reverends called Mohammad a "demn possssd pedphl."

Another said, "...a virulent strain of atheism which seeks to destroy our belief system."

Do you agree that these are dire threats to the 'West'?

Answer 1

Radical Islam is an undeniable threat to everyone, not just the West. Look what it's doing to the Middle East. Moderate Islam is comparatively harmless.

Atheism doesn't seek to destroy your belief system; it merely seeks to keep your belief system from permeating into places where it really shouldn't be, and from sidelining the beliefs of others. I think he was ranting more against secularism than atheism--all atheism IS, is merely an absence of a belief in God. I hardly think that to be all that threatening.

Answer 2

"Islamo-fascism is evil incarnate...Islamists are very different. We (Christians) will die for what we believe. They will kill for what they believe."

No, the whole point of 'militant' jihad (don;t forget -- there are two other NON PHYSICAL types of jihad) is to be martyred, not to kill. But obviously in a situation like war, both sides will be killing and dying for their beliefs, that is obvious. If the point of Jihad was to kill random non-believers, a lot more people would be dead considering we are the second largest religion in the world. This 'preacher' has got to get it straight and think logically.

One of the Reverends called Mohammad a "demn possssd pedphl."

Damn possessed pedophile? Come on. At least he could have used something that is actually provable. Possessed? what a claim -- its like a child saying to another child 'you're stupid' when it was the first child who did something incorrect.
And how is he a pedophile? It is a known fact that one of his wives was very young (I think about 9) while the rest were divorcees or widows (he remained married to one woman for almost 15 years, she was about 15 years his senior as well!).

#1, the marriage was not consumated until she reached puberty.
#2, this practise was absolutely normal in Prophetic times. if this was wrong, wouldn't her father fight for her? But he didnt, why? because it was normal. In fact, her father was the Prophet's best friend! Wouldnt his enemies use this against him during warefare? Of course they would! But there was nothing wrong with it AT THE TIME. Does he not realise that Mary was MAYBE 13 years of age? And what about Sarah and Hagar? In our times this is considered unthinkable and I agree -- but it can not be argued that this is pedophilia in a time where this was the norm. Does he also not realise that this was normal among christians as well? and jews?

Another said, "...a virulent strain of atheism which seeks to destroy our belief system."

how is Islam atheism? Now he is just pulling these out of a hat!

Do you agree that these are dire threats to the 'West'?

No, the ideas that these propogaters have is more damaging to civilized society than anything islam says.

Answer 3

I agree with some of it. I agree that fascism is always a threat. Fundamental Islam is a threat. Militant atheism is a threat. But so is fundamental and militant Christianity, too. I do NOT think that Islam and atheism, in themselves, are a threat to anyone. Everyone has a right to believe what they want to. Extreme ideology, however, is always a threat to freedom of religion, or any freedom for that matter.

And I'm a Southern Baptist, too. Nice to see so many people on here stereotyping all of us.

Answer 4

I don't.

I think Islamist extremists, like many kinds of extremists, can endanger us as individuals, but the only way they threaten our culture is when we allow the fear to rule us. I think we as a culture were doing that for a while, and that's how we got into the debacle in Iraq, but we're getting over it and beginning to reclaim who we are as Americans. Slowly.

I think a part of why a few extremists can be so dangerous is that they have so little to lose. Therefore, the spread of extremism is, to a certain extent, self-limiting. As these groups grow they need to pursue a certain amount of legitimacy, and as they strive to do that, they become less dangerous specifically _because_ they get centralized locations and other things they don't want to lose. Consider, for example, how harmless Qadafi has become over the years. Or Castro, or even Saddam Hussein before the invasion. Not that any of these men became good people, or good leaders, but the desire to hang on to power kept them in check where decentralized individuals like bin Laden remained dangerous.

As for a virulent strain of Atheism, I don't buy it at all. I think in this case it's a matter of a particularly arrogant sort of Christian getting upset when people with different beliefs start to get as vocal as they already are.

Answer 5

At the Southern Baptist Convention in 1995, they apologized for their role in slavery.

In the past ten years at the Southern Baptist Convention, they have also adopted resolutions to "evangelize the Jews" and that homosexuality is an abomination.

There is so much good that churches could be doing in this world...and they just spend so much time pointing fingers and rallying the troops around a common enemy to increase their offerings...it is sad...they have lost the true calling of the church, and have just become political corporations.

And I believe the biggest threat to the U.S. are extremists of any religion/culture...including some in our very own country.

Answer 6

Only two.
In my own opinion, and having been so very closely associated with the SBC for years, I would say the worst threats are within their own churches.
Things like apathy. Short-sightedness. Legalism.
I could go on and into detail. I won't.
Every church and every denom. has troubles.
But from the outside, yes, these two are, but the islamic threat will get to everyone, Christian or not.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

Western civilization is where it is today based on the advances of rationality and science.


Any fundamentalist threat to rationalism and science is a dire threat.

I can see this coming from extremist Muslims and Christians. I have yet to see an atheist declare scientific theories to be fundemetally wrong.

Answer 9

Atheism is a threat to the religious system, but to the government - no

Answer 10

How is atheism threatening the West, pray tell? We have never flown planes into buildings, nor sought to restrain the rights of those whose beliefs are different than ours.