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2007-06-12 07:18:05 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

The question is between Paul and Moses. Please, no one put Jesus. I know he's the most important period.

2007-06-12 07:26:44 · update #1

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There is no comparision.
Prophet Moses(pbuh) was a mighty Prophet of The God Almighty.
Holy scripture named Taurah revealed on Prophet Moses.
Prophet Jesus(pbuh) also said
" I am not here to abolish laws of Moses, but to establish"
God Almighty revealed Injeel on Prophet Jesus(pbuh) to provide guidance to Israilties and to confirm laws of Moses.

Some hard facts:
We must remember that Jesus never knew Paul; the two men never once met. The disciples who knew Jesus best, such as Peter, James and John, have left no writings behind them explaining how Jesus seemed to them or what they considered his mission to have been. Did they agree with the interpretations disseminated by Paul in his fluent, articulate writings? Or did they perhaps think that this newcomer to the scene, spinning complicated theories about the place of Jesus in the scheme of things, was getting everything wrong? Paul claimed that his interpretations were not just his own invention, but had come to him by personal inspiration; he claimed that he had personal acquaintance with the resurrected Jesus, even though he had never met him during his lifetime. Such acquaintance, he claimed, gained through visions and transports, was actually superior to acquaintance with Jesus during his lifetime, when Jesus was much more reticent about his purposes.

In chapter 22, Saul (now called Paul), is shown giving his own account of his early life in a speech to the people after the Roman commandant had questioned him. Paul speaks as follows:

I am a true-born Jew, a native of Tarsus in Cilicia. I was brought up in this city, and as a pupil of Gamaliel I was thoroughly trained in every point of our ancestral law. I have always been ardent in God's service, as you all are today. And so I began to persecute this movement to the death, arresting its followers, men and women alike, and putting them in chains. For this I have as witnesses the High Priest and the whole Council of Elders. I was given letters from them to our fellow-Jews at Damascus, and had started out to bring the Christians there to Jerusalem as prisoners for punishment; and this is what happened....

After that Saul, now Paul turned 180 degree, and said he had a vision of Jesus.
Now a person who never met Jesus in His first life on earth now claiming that he is now inspired by Jesus, makes him doubt full. We have to understand it. We should open our eyes and analyze what Paul want.

Paul's Christianity is not what Jesus taught:

The German philosopher, Fredrick Neitzsche recognized Paul's role in constructing the "new" Christianity, and was convinced of deception:

In Nietzsche's view, the very worst of them was Paul, the actual founder of the Christian church and doctrine. Nietzsche was convinced that Paul was not sincere in his beliefs, that "his requirement was power." Nietzsche cannot bring himself to believe that Paul, "whose home was the principal center of Stoic enlightenment," is sincere when he offers up a hallucination as proof that The Redeemer still lives.

Paul invented the doctrines of 'eternal life' and 'the Judgement' as a means to his ends. In Die Morgenrote (translated by R. J. Hollingdale as Daybreak, Cambridge Univ. Press, 1982), Nietzsche had earlier discussed Paul's frustrations at being unable to master, and to comply with, Jewish law, and hence Paul "sought about for a means of destroying" that law. Christianity offered Paul just the weapon he had been seeking.

[A 40-42; Die Morgenrote 68, http://www.debunker.com/texts/anti_chr.html, retrieved 12/08/'01].

Paul destroyed the Law:

Romans 3:28

[28] For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.

Romans 7:4

[4] Likewise, my brethren, you have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead in order that we may bear fruit for God.

1 Corinthians 10:25

[25] Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience.

Contrary to what Paul taught, Jesus stated that he came to fulfil the Law and not abolish it. He further states that whoever takes the least bit out of the Law will be "the least" in the Kingdom of Heaven. Since Paul took the "whole" law out, according to Jesus' criteria, Paul is the "least" of the "least"! Consider these words of Jesus:

Matthew 5:17-20:

[17] "Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.

[18] For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.

[19] Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

[20] For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. "


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Christianity
http://www.irf.net

2007-06-12 07:47:59 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Without Paul there wouldn't really be any christianity or bible. It doesn't matter much that he claimed his god (who he called "christ jesus") came to him in a vision, and it doesn't matter that he believed Jesus existed in a spiritual realm and never lived or walked on earth...

Indeed Hebrews 8:4 essentially says that if Jesus had been on earth (which he hadn't) he would not have even been a priest... though this is more in the older translations, many people have since added the word "still" to try and fix this. Yes, they add words to the bible all the time. The word homosexual (which did not exist back then as its own word) was also added recently. So much for divine work, they're constantly adding or changing things they don't like.

However shaky the connection between Paul's Jesus and the one worshipped today, at least there are some documents from him. On the other hand there may not have even been a moses. Historically there were never any Jews enslaved in Egypt, nor was there ever an exodus, so that puts the whole Moses thing in doubt. It is possible that there was a Jewish leader named Moses and his story grew in the telling until he was parting oceans by waving a stick in the air.

2007-06-12 07:26:49 · answer #2 · answered by Mike K 5 · 0 0

Paul was forced to serve Jesus as a prisoner. If Paul had not murdered so many Chritians to the point of destroying the early church, his services might not have been needed at all - it is believed that Christ wanted the murdering all of the Christians to stop first and foremost. Paul wrote letters instead of scripture.

I think that Moses knew that his one murder of the Egyptian was a mistake, and Moses really wanted to serve God. Moses actually wrote scripture which has a literal sense and an internal sense given through parable or symbolism.

However, to call any servant more important, Christ talks against that thinking. The greatest is who serves all.

2007-06-12 07:46:59 · answer #3 · answered by Brief Boxer 3 · 0 0

I'd have to say Moses. Moses gave unique laws and was really the most important figure in Judaism. I think if all Paul's works were absent we would still be able to find the same things in the other gospels and epistles. Paul was just more educated than everyone else in the Bible and was able to explain everything theologically.

2007-06-12 07:25:03 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Both important in their time. Old Testament Moses for leading the Hebrews out of Egypt, and New Testament Saul/St. Paul for spreading the Gospel to the Gentiles.

2007-06-12 07:20:39 · answer #5 · answered by tracymoo 6 · 0 0

Moses was first of course but they are both uniquely important to Christianity. Paul was a great example of doing God's will. He managed to give the message to many people who became Christians.

2007-06-12 07:22:12 · answer #6 · answered by moocher 1 · 0 0

Neither. It is a tie. Moses is the most important person in the spread and influence of Judaism. Paul is the most important person in the spread and influence of Christianity. Both are very important parts of world religion today. It's a tie.

2007-06-12 07:21:06 · answer #7 · answered by Mr. Taco 7 · 0 0

Moses in the OT and Paul in the NT.

They were both important,one is not more important than other.

2007-06-12 07:22:54 · answer #8 · answered by Nina, BaC 7 · 0 0

in biblical history would be Moses. As Paul is not important to Jews.

2007-06-12 07:21:26 · answer #9 · answered by texasbluezman 2 · 0 0

They were both very important in their time. Moses was very important for the Israelites freeing them. I would have to say that Paul is more important to me personally. He wrote many of the books of the Bible that are my guidelines

2007-06-12 09:09:39 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Neither.......
Moses was a prophet that led the people from captivity.
Paul was a disciple who led the early church toward Grace.

The most important person in biblical History is Jesus, who actually sacrificed himself to save our souls, and free us from death's embrace.

2007-06-12 07:22:01 · answer #11 · answered by josephwiess 3 · 0 1

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